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    Re: Skype is dead...

    alternatives are already out and look promising.

    here is one. vline

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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Since I'm not paranoid, I'm not that fussed if there are backdoors in Skype. I'm happy to keep using it and have nothing to hide. A bit of accountability is sometimes a good thing.

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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Quote Originally Posted by mr john View Post
    Since I'm not paranoid, I'm not that fussed if there are backdoors in Skype. I'm happy to keep using it and have nothing to hide. A bit of accountability is sometimes a good thing.
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    That is not the problem.

    Uninstall Linux, use Windows, and turn off your firewall, get rid of any antivirus.

    Accountable enough for you?

    Basically, installing a backdoor in a program violates every principle of security in existence. You may as well not have any.

    Anyone can hack the program, anyone can subvert your whole system, and anyone can now destroy all your precious files, steal them. Watch as nearly every company in the US gets hacked because some Chinese hacker figured out the key to every computer that runs Skype. Yeah. You <snip>, don't use programs with backdoors in them.

    If you want to be accountable, why don't you just e-mail regular screenshots of your screen to the local government office, if that really makes you feel better and more "secure".

    This not even to mention the violation of human rights.

    Why don't I come over and violate some more of your rights, since you seem so keen on giving them up entirely? I don't know, maybe steal all of your furniture, defame you all over the internet, take your words out of context and commit libel. Because, you know, you have 'nothing to hide', because you don't have a right to privacy.

    Why don't we just make child pornography legal again? 'Cause I bet you anything people WILL use this to grab compromising shots of minors. And post them all over the Internet.

    I could go on, but that whole stance on the matter could hardly get more offensive or thoughtless. Or, just frankly, stupid, and straight out of a 1984 novel.
    Last edited by LordDelta; May 26th, 2013 at 08:16 AM.

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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Please keep personal attacks out of the thread, our it will be closed.

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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Quote Originally Posted by cariboo907 View Post
    Please keep personal attacks out of the thread, our it will be closed.
    Right, can we mute them at least?

    There is no personal attack.

    What I say I hold is entirely true. The venom in the post (which I admit is there) is not attacking any one individual. I will not remand my statement to be "nice". I am perfectly happy to remove any personal attack I may have accidentally implied.

    I hold that it is not even discrimintating against any particular group of people. It is attacking a mindset, not an individual or whatever their opinion might be.

    Individuals and groups are of course entitled to their opinions, no matter how stupid or smart they might be, something I firmly believe in, in opposition to any aforementioned mindset.
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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Quote Originally Posted by LordDelta View Post
    Right, can we mute them at least?
    If you mean censor when you say mute, no. As long as responses are respectful to others, this thread will remain open.

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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Quote Originally Posted by cariboo907 View Post
    If you mean censor when you say mute, no. As long as responses are respectful to others, this thread will remain open.
    Please see my update.

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    Re: Skype is dead...

    Quote Originally Posted by mr john View Post
    Since I'm not paranoid, I'm not that fussed if there are backdoors in Skype. I'm happy to keep using it and have nothing to hide. A bit of accountability is sometimes a good thing.
    I suppose everyone has something to hide, otherwise why not go naked and live in a fish bowl? But seriously, whether I have something to hide is not the issue here, the issue is why is it your business to know in the first place.

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    Re: Backdoor in Skype

    It has nothing to do with having anything to hide or not. In the case of Skype, one of their main selling points was that it was secure and encrypted.

    The backdoor renders the whole point of Skype useless.

    Plus, you and I have a right to privacy. In this modern age of social media, we are giving up this right far too easily. We are publishing all our private details online for anyone to see (social media for example), and for companies to mine and store.

    Rights cease to exist if they are not made use of. If no one cares about their privacy online, then eventually there will be no privacy online.

    I like to be able to have a conversation with B when the information I share is only intend for B. But in this case you have X listening in secret. That's fine if I am made aware of it and choose to ignore it. It's not fine if I am mislead.

    It all boils down to values and principles.

    Every time we have this discussion, someone comes along and says "What's the fuss about, I have nothing to hide?". It's not about that.

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    Re: Backdoor in Skype

    So where are all the proprietary and closed source advocates? Why so silent all of a sudden? Why is nobody telling us here how nice, effective and customer-oriented the closed source model is?

    Skype is proprietary and closed source and that's the only reason why adding backdoors is even possible. A FOSS app of comparable popularity would be simply forked in less than a day.

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