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    Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    Just curious, being that its cross platform, wouldn't that solve a lot of compatibility issues? Moreover, if more programs were written in Java (including those on Windows and Mac) wouldn't it help Linux users as well? why don't more people use Java so they don't have to port things as much?

    I know some people dont like Java for various reasons, many of which I agree and disagree with, but the JVM can be helpful. I dont think it slows things down enough to consider speed an issue.

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    Quote Originally Posted by WinterMadness View Post
    Just curious, being that its cross platform, wouldn't that solve a lot of compatibility issues? Moreover, if more programs were written in Java (including those on Windows and Mac) wouldn't it help Linux users as well? why don't more people use Java so they don't have to port things as much?

    I know some people dont like Java for various reasons, many of which I agree and disagree with, but the JVM can be helpful. I dont think it slows things down enough to consider speed an issue.

    Please answer every question I present if you are able to. Thanks!

    There are others that are also cross platform. Python is my current favorite.

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    I am not fond of the Java syntax and some other limitations personally.

    I dont think it slows things down enough to consider speed an issue.
    A Codecs, renderer, or any low-level library couldn't sustain any slow down, since linux is not only for desktop, there are programs that requires massive computation.
    And it is not good enough for an application either. X11 isn't quite fast already, and Swing for GUI programming is pretty slow, which make it even worst.

    I think Gtk with Glade designer and with c/c++ can handle GUI pretty easily in most cases.

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaviesX View Post
    I am not fond of the Java syntax and some other limitations personally.


    A Codecs, renderer, or any low-level library couldn't sustain any slow down, since linux is not only for desktop, there are programs that requires massive computation.
    And it is not good enough for an application either. X11 isn't quite fast already, and Swing for GUI programming is pretty slow, which make it even worst.

    I think Gtk with Glade designer and with c/c++ can handle GUI pretty easily in most cases.

    You might try the new javafx out (or scalafx with scala). Also, my lab uses java for massive computation purposes.
    Last edited by Leuchten; May 24th, 2013 at 04:30 AM.

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    It's just the way things are I suppose.

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    Because it makes a site nice.

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    Quote Originally Posted by xb12x View Post
    There are others that are also cross platform. Python is my current favorite.

    As far as I know, python doesn't have its own windowing system and widgets. Java does (swing).

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    Quote Originally Posted by ehrt74 View Post
    As far as I know, python doesn't have its own windowing system and widgets. Java does (swing).
    in python you may use:

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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    • SWING doesn't support much desktop integration for GUI apps
    • often bad support for low level system functions and native libs
    • long startup time
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    Re: Why aren't more Linux applications written in Java?

    C'mon, we all know the real reason nobody uses Swing -- it's hideous.

    Other languages have (as it seems to me) better support for other windowing toolkits, which is big. Huge, really. There's no reason to limit yourself to Swing when using Java, but if you're not bound to Swing, you're not bound to Java either.

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