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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    I only know nVidia as I have an older nVidia card not dual video. And nomodeset works for me.
    But some new systems seem to need nomodeset and other boot parameters.
    And some with Intel need the default screen size set as boot parameter.

    Some have used these, but I so not know about your system specifically.
    Some systems need these boot parameters, but some were for Intel chip not nVidia?
    ACPI=Off nomodeset
    pci=nomsi noapic
    quiet splash vt.handoff=7 rootdelay=90 reboot=a,w
    acpi_osi=linux pci=noacpi
    Also one used nolapic.

    It is my understanding that UEFI does not use irq so any setting for that would not apply.

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
    http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Docum...parameters.txt
    noapic nolapic noapci noirqpoll nosmp irqpoll

    But I am sure Boot-Repair can convert BIOS to UEFI but without knowing boot parameters that work, first boot may still be an issue. Once drivers are installed it should be ok.

    Force Intel Video mode as boot parameter in grub menu
    video=1280x1024-24@60
    and if that doesn't work you can try
    video=VGA-1:1280x1024-24@60

    Nvidia just released a new proprietary driver that partitally works with dual video. I gather it only runs in nVidia mode for performance, but not power savings with Intel chip. But if a desktop you may not care about power savings.

    It may also need the newest kernel that will be in the next Ubuntu 13.10.

    Released 319.17 certified driver May 2013 only uses nVidia so power consumption high
    http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-d...17-driver.html
    Some discussion of limits of new nVidia driver with some Optimus support
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142215
    Installing new nVidia driver 319.12 beta
    http://www.barunisystems.com/index.p...page?view=blog
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    Thank you for helping me with your detailed explanations, it certainly is helping oldfred.

    Let me try those boot parameter combinations you've posted and see what happens.

    Just one more thing: what do you think about the BIOS graphics setup, which is currently:

    Integrated Video: Disable
    PCI Graphics Configuration:
    Nvidia VGA controller: Primary VGA device
    Intel VGA controller: Non-boot device

    With these settings it appears that only nVidia card is enabled (which would explain the output from the lspci command I posted previously from within the live session). Is this OK or should I fiddle more with the settings, i.e.try to disable the nVidia card and only allow the Intel one?

    Thank you.

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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    I know nVidia more, but not sure my knowledge of my standalone older 9600GT applies in your case. I have seem some with the Intel have issues, but the Intel driver is supposed to just work. Intel only has one driver and it is the open source one that is standard. But they have been updating it and I do not know how up to date the Ubuntu version is.

    What you do have to be careful of is which video mode you are in and then which boot parameters that mode needs as the are different.
    You may want to read the info on Optimus. I do not know if there is any info on booting, it may be more important after you have installed.
    nVidia Optimus and Ubuntu explained
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657660
    Bumblebee:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
    12.10 with bumblebee
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2077451
    NVIDIA Confirms It's Working On Optimus Linux Support - Aug 31, 2012
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTE3MzY
    Released 319.12 Beta April 2013
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTM0NzE
    Released 319.17 certified driver May 2013 only uses nVidia so power consumption high
    http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-d...17-driver.html
    Some discussion of limits of new nVidia driver with some Optimus support
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142215
    Installing new nVidia driver 319.12 beta
    http://www.barunisystems.com/index.p...page?view=blog
    The problem was caused by another technology by Intel called the Integrated Network Interface Controller (NIC) that was conflicting with my USB controller that prevented my LiveUSB from working
    Some BIOS
    turn off discrete graphics
    turn off "os optimus detection"
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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    I've tried all of the following:

    ACPI=Off nomodeset
    pci=nomsi noapic
    quiet splash vt.handoff=7 rootdelay=90 reboot=a,w
    acpi_osi=linux pci=noacp
    video=1280x1024-24@60
    video=VGA-1:1280x1024-24@60

    and none worked. I'm stunned! I'll do more reading about Optimus now from the thread link you've posted. I know a bit about Optimus as I already have a Dell laptop with nVidia/Intel combo, however, the only thing I needed to do in that case was to install Bumblebee after I've installed Ubuntu. It was only in order to disable nVidia card. I didn't had any issues with booting into the live session as I recall.

    Still wondering why it works in Legacy/BIOS but not in EFI, this is the part I am most confused about I mean I am not passing any kernel parameters in this case and I am still able to reach live session desktop. And only nVidia card is active then.

    Maybe I'm just unlucky, perhaps it is impossible to install in EFI in this case?

    oldfred, would it help if I post command outputs about the available hardware? Any particular command? BIOS/UEFI screenshots?

    Prepared to do anything in order to get it to boot!

    P.S. Also tried with a Live DVD instead of USB this time around, same problem.

    Thanks.

    Regards,
    Veroslav
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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    I am surprised it does not work.
    The link I posted above to another user with a HP Envy 6 does not mention any video issues. Perhaps he did not have the dual video.

    Do you have a setting for Intel NIC network controller? I do not see how that would matter but user said it did.

    While a Dell Intel tech may be similar. see post #16
    Dell UltraBook - Instructions & Details in Post #15 & 16 Devine Shine
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144853

    Also is your UEFI/BIOS the current version from HP?
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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    Thank you for the support oldfred and sorry for my somewhat late reply.

    I got sick of trial-and-error that lead me nowhere so I decided I would wipe Windows 8 completely and install Ubuntu 12.04 only (in BIOS mode).

    When I tried to do this, I noticed that the computer also came with a SSD disk and my knowledge of installing and optimizations involving an SSD disk is non-existent.

    At this point I simply gave up.

    It is my father's computer (had it been my own I would have been more patient and would probably got it to work sooner or later). Unfortunately, my father does not share my patience so he decided he would be returning the computer to the store he bought it from.

    I feel defeated and dissapointed to say the least. Never had any issues while installing before (BIOS) so I will need to do even more reading on the subjects (EFI and SSD) before I convince my father to buy a new computer and let me attempt an Ubuntu installation on it. Would have liked to keep experimenting at least for a few more days, but my father thought it was not worth the effort.

    oldfred, I would like to thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and guiding me even though I didn't get there in the end. I am sure I will be asking more questions as soon as I try installing on some other computer in the future.

    Thanks again.

    Kind Regards,
    Veroslav
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    Re: Unable to boot Ubuntu 12.04.2 in EFI mode, black screen (dual boot with Windows 8

    Sorry you could not get it to work. There just are so many new options withe UEFI and each vendor seems to have done some things differently. It may take a while before install with dual Video and SSD in UltraBooks becomes easier. Not sure if it will ever be "easy".

    Some have just installed / (root) to SSD. A few have converted to just Ubuntu in BIOS mode. Some with just Ubuntu in UEFI mode with the two drives, or still dual boot but Ubuntu in the SSD or only on hard drive and re-enable the Intel SRT.

    You are not the only one who gave up. But I think the only computer that only worked in BIOS mode was an Asus K55N and that seemed to boot in UEFI mode but never could get past video issues. Since it worked in BIOS mode and other computers do work in UEFI, then it is Asus's UEFI not reporting video correctly. But it usually is up to Linux developers to work around bugs in other systems.
    Last edited by oldfred; May 20th, 2013 at 04:34 PM.
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