View Poll Results: Should Brainstorm be terminated

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Thread: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

  1. #11
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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    But brainstorm was a place for suggestions so I dont approve of it being lost.

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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    http://www.markshuttleworth.com/contact-details <--- You can always just send suggestions here
    I do.. an inordinate amount of that. lol
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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    Brainstorm never really worked as it was supposed to, but it was nice to have a place to send people who came to this forum with their grand, earth-shattering ideas and then complained that "the community" wouldn't listen to them.

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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    On Phoronix:"user interest is no longer there" ... hahaha! Certainly ... because suggesting ideas on Brainstorm is useless. Proof:

    "The Ubuntu community has contributed 22700 ideas", of which ... 1 idea has been implemented in 12.10: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/implemented_ideas/12.10/


    Next step please: make clear that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs is only for reporting bugs and agreeing between users, and not for getting them solved or for getting any serious feedback from developers. There seem to be only bots responding with useless remarks like "bug report removed because it was not updated in the last 40 days".

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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    Removed double post.

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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    I thought the brainstorm website was a good idea. It still is. It's the rest of the machine that is broken. People will lose interest if they aren't being heard. Roadmaps for Ubuntu development are published, but only a tiny fraction of the brainstorm inputs are incorporated. "Why bother?"

    I respect Jorge's decision to close it down, but brainstorm was not the problem. The website was like a community stationary bike where anyone could jump on and pedal for a while to generate electricity for the global village. People stopped pedalling when they found a big fat wire stuck into the ground. Who wants to waste their time generating electricity that goes straight to ground?

    I'm not sure which is worse: creating a brainstorm website to solicit ideas to give the impression of community then shutting it down, or collecting ideas from the community over the past few years and then holding a bonfire of ideas to celebrate.

    This whole situation has made me queasy as if I had I invested a lot of money with a hedge fund manager.
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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    At least it's a logical step. Why have a project like Brainstorm when nobody on the development team is listening?

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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    There's something like 47 pages of implemented ideas, and the tech board routinely responded to the top ideas for every cycle. The problem with Brainstorm is that it was supposed to be a collaborative place between users and developers, but instead turned into "wishlist-driven-development", which isn't really sustainable.

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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    There were definitely ideas that were implemented. From memory, I think the "Offer to install a codec when the user first tries to play a file that he/she doesn't have the codec for" feature in Ubuntu came from Brainstorm or its predecessor.

    However, there were certainly some crazy ideas. I submitted one about UFW being network-aware; it could turn itself off when you were safely behind your home ADSL modem's firewall, but turn on when you move to unsecured wifi or use a 3G connection. I thought that wasn't a bad idea (I found out later that Windows Vista has this as a feature) but someone came along and proposed a different approach. Their approach was "Turn the firewall off when your computer opens a connection, for example when you click Check Mail, and then as soon as the connection is closed turn the firewall back on again". This solution got lots of votes, despite being completely technically wrong.
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    Re: is ubuntu going to terminate Brainstorm

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdalbum View Post
    However, there were certainly some crazy ideas. I submitted one about UFW being network-aware; it could turn itself off when you were safely behind your home ADSL modem's firewall, but turn on when you move to unsecured wifi or use a 3G connection. I thought that wasn't a bad idea (I found out later that Windows Vista has this as a feature) but someone came along and proposed a different approach. Their approach was "Turn the firewall off when your computer opens a connection, for example when you click Check Mail, and then as soon as the connection is closed turn the firewall back on again". This solution got lots of votes, despite being completely technically wrong.

    LOL! so basicly turn it off when going online and then turning it on when going offline....

    well but some ideas were good. brainstorming usually involves crazy ideas. however the ones like mentioned above should be filtered out before voting...
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