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Thread: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

  1. #31
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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    Ubuntu *is* community. Community *is* Ubuntu. As simple as that.

    (edit: I mean that links to the community should be visible and clear. Always.)
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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    Well UDS starts tomorrow.

    There are a couple of session set for this

    http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/me...site-planning/

    http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/me...ebsite-revamp/

    Join in - be proactive

  3. #33
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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    If you wanted to sell the entire Ubuntu ecosystem, wouldn't it be easier to remove the community entanglements? I think that the community support options and community decision-making impedes turning Ubuntu into a commercial product. It took Apple ~10 years to turn a BSD/Darwin (open source) kernel with a proprietary display server into OS X that we know today. Ubuntu took a Debian base, patched it, developed gui's, distributed it, advertised it, created several community support outlets, in ~8 years. I know I am comparing apples and orange (and purple), but the point is that there is an arc to this story.

    You will have to tune in next week to find out. If Ubuntu wants to grow with a singular focus, then community management, development, and support will have to take a backseat to top-down directive. It's a classic struggle that has been played out many times in both software and technology companies in general. I see this as no different.

    A family restaurant is no longer a family restaurant when it is not run by family members. As soon as a (successful) family restaurant sells out to a larger commercial chain, the notion of family immediately goes out the window. Look at several frameworks that have been sold to commercial entities: CUPs, MYSQL, OpenOffice. Each has a different story, with similar challenges to the idea of community.

    I enjoyed Jono Bacon's book: Art of Community (2nd ed), but it is missing a few chapters. What happens when community is removed from a community-supported project? What happens when a community-supported project is sold? I'm not proposing a 3rd ed, but there are several interesting case studies that are worth looking at. Those cases will inform the debate that is happening in this thread.
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  4. #34
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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfy View Post
    Well UDS starts tomorrow.

    There are a couple of session set for this

    http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/me...site-planning/

    http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/me...ebsite-revamp/

    Join in - be proactive
    What are the requirements to join in? Could you please point to a link that explains the procedure? Is a super-fast net connection required?
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    Re: Ubuntu is Community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Euroman View Post
    Askubuntu is more effective for 'technical' questions than the forums.
    Mmmmm...

    I disagree. What AskUbuntu is very good for is the general answer for questions that should meet the needs of most users. That is a necessary and vital part of community support.

    The forums are much better for individual support when the standard answer, which will work for the majority of users, does not work. Here we can take the time to troubleshoot problems that arise with individual users and their unique situations. I have helped people whose issues require a troubleshooting process that may take 30 posts to work through.

    Both approaches are need. The community needs both.

    Many subforums here are non-technical and chatty (also good), but the support areas are every bit as technical.

  6. #36
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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    Can someone explain what the Community link on ubuntu.com has to do with Ask Ubuntu? I'm a bit confused on what the discussion is about, lol.

  7. #37
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    Re: Ubuntu is Community.

    and then again askubuntu.com is mentioned on the ubuntu 13.04 installer, just saying

  8. #38
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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    That's the slideshow maintainer's decision, he's not a Canonical employee.

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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    I've marked the bug as affecting me also. Thanks for the heads-up, Benjamin.

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    Re: Your thoughts on Ubuntu.com without Community?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasa1 View Post
    What are the requirements to join in? Could you please point to a link that explains the procedure? Is a super-fast net connection required?
    I hope not - I've not got a super fast connection.

    There'll be a video I believe - live - of some talking, there's an IRC channel for those not in the google thingymajig and if you login to the etherpad you can comment in there as well.

    I'm sure there's something I've not said - someone else can.

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