If you look at things from our perspective, you have to admit that for a long time a lot of things have happened that makes it look like Canonical is trying to hide the community and forget about us, especially the forums. I can see how it's possible that none of these many actions were really meant that way, but you have to admit that to us that's how it looks.
The subject of this thread is not the only instance, by far. It's just the straw that broke the camel's back. And like I said earlier, not much is being done by Canonical to smooth it over and make us feel appreciated, other than a bunch of "answers". I think that if we were regularly made to publicly feel appreciated, Canonical could probably get by with a lot more with less complaints.
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Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You. - Dr. Seuss
castrojo, why is a member of the Ubuntu Community Team taking such an attitude and posting what are often argumentative statements in a Community forum?
Nobody here wants to hear your troubles and travails. They are interested in SEEING your RESULTS.
The Community Java Wiki * The Community ATI Driver Wiki * Find what you need in the Ubuntu Community wikis
And seeing the terror on the faces of the people, QIII did speak to them, saying "Fear not the Terminal, for it is a road both swift and secure to the Great Mysteries of Linux without passing through the dangers of The Land of Ten Thousand Competing Desktop Environments."
I don't want to come off as bashing you (castrojo) and we don't want to make you a scapegoat for the whole problem. But the problem exists, and as part of the "community team" we are naturally going to direct a lot of our thoughts toward you and your fellow team members.
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de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum -- Wiktionary
It's been my experience, that actions always speak louder than words.QIII
They are interested in SEEING your RESULTS.
Would Ubuntu be as popular, without the support of the community? The community who's spent years providing feedback, online support and recruiting. Has Canonical considered how the community will respond to rejection and what impact they might have? As MadmanRB so aptly stated: "Dude this is LINUX not bloody Microsoft or Apple."prusswan
Canonical should not be expected to pander to anything but their paying customers.
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"All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward."
In reality, community works both ways. And ideally, Canonical and its Team should be thought of (and behave as) true members of the community. And as a community, we SHOULD be willing to listen to and appreciate their troubles and travails. I would argue that for the most part the community does care about Canonical's problems, and is willing to help resolve them, if given a chance. Only by doing so, can the results be satisfactory.
Canonical needs to give the community that chance.