Well, Canonical is running a business... they have the right to do things their way and that may mean breaking some perceived obligations to the wayland developers, after all. Business is business. I think the worry stems mostly from the fact that wayland would lose proprietary driver support and fall off, but I think it will probably work out seeing people saying that the proprietary drivers will be egl-based (whatever that is) and will probably work for both wayland and mir. No use with the hate posts now. I think Canonical will still 'support' Wayland in their official distro line-up, if they intend to keep KDE and GNOME, which I think they will. In the end, it's free software, and competition is healthy and drives innovation, or so they say, or used to say a year ago when I started using Linux. As far as I understand, Mir is a modern type of X made from scratch, it acts as a mediator which draws stuff for it's clients/compositors i.e., it's still a display server, and Wayland is a new pardigm, it is not a server, it's a protocol that enables clients/compositors to become their own server and draw stuff themselves, interfacing directly with the display hardware. What benefits one has over the other, I do not know but they both claim to provide faster graphics with less latency than X which is apparently bloated. in the end, I think people will use whatever works out the best..
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Greetings, Originally Posted by anca-emanuel Hmm interesting... In the meantime: http://theravingrick.blogspot.ro/2013/05/woof-woof.html http://www.iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-to...-unity-top-mir It's interesting that the above link shows small screen devices as the target for mir's trial run. I've noticed a great deal of support taking place in the RC Kernels change logs and also in the upstream links for small screen touch devices. It possible that they have it working in that genre so desktop support shouldn't be that far away. I think the problem may be that small screen support is directed at specific devices whereas desktop has to support an endless array of architecture.
Originally Posted by rrnbtter Greetings, It's interesting that the above link shows small screen devices as the target for mir's trial run. I've noticed a great deal of support taking place in the RC Kernels change logs and also in the upstream links for small screen touch devices. It possible that they have it working in that genre so desktop support shouldn't be that far away. I think the problem may be that small screen support is directed at specific devices whereas desktop has to support an endless array of architecture. That's a fair analogy. So far, nothing in saucy except for 1 file as of yesterday.
I tried to look at Mir in Raring, but not succeeded. What I gathered at Mir wiki was this; Running Mir natively You can also run Mir natively. To do so, log in to VT1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) after you are already logged in to X. If you do so before then you will not be assigned adequate credentials to access the graphics hardware and will get strange errors. VT switching away from Mir will only work if Mir is run as root. In this case we need to change the permissions to the Mir socket so that clients can connect: $ sudo mir_demo_server <Ctrl+Alt+F2> - log in to VT 2 $ sudo chmod 777 /tmp/mir_socket $ some-mir-client <Ctrl+Alt+F1> - switch back to Mir. Watch your friends be amazed! What is actually some-mir-client? There is no command "some." Or should the last line be something else? The link; http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_pc.html
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Mir & Unity 8
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Tried Mir with saucy too, but it gets stuck. There is no way to minimize a window. Firefox can be used but cannot make it smaller or delete it. I used /usr/share/applications to run Firefox. Then it got stuck. The information was taken from http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_pc.html I used the method with X. There was no menu, or panel, or icons. In the 2nd method, I only got a large arrow, nothing else. There was no command called some-mir-client. Does anyone know what that is?
@Chanath Did you see this on that page you linked to? Getting some example client applicationsIf you installed Mir using the packages from the mir-team staging PPA, you can get some example programs by installing the mir-demos package: Code: sudo apt-get install mir-demos If you are building from source you can find client applications in the bin/ subdirectory of the build directory. Regards.
sudo apt-get install mir-demos
It is a machine. It is more stupid than we are. It will not stop us from doing stupid things. Ubuntu user #33,200. Linux user #530,530
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ay/037117.html Yes that is unity 8 (next). Demo: http://youtu.be/E9AzRxsnfTE https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ay/037119.html I hope that we'll get that before end of month.
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It looks like we will get something to play with in this dev cycle: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTM3MzY
Originally Posted by EgoGratis It looks like we will get something to play with in this dev cycle: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTM3MzY Ok .. great ... but what happened to the 'mir' executable and other files that we signed up for in raring (and now report being broken in saucy)? I guess I just get annoyed at the fact that I have a benign ppa sitting on some of my installs after going through the work and the risk to experiment with that server. I know .... I can remove the ppa .. etc... but my point is that (and it may be too soon to assume this) it appears that 'mir' is going the way of Wayland ... so all this sleep time is downtime for me. Ok .. rant over. thanks..
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