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    Question Rolling Releases

    OK - I've done the due diligence and looked for how / why / if subject will be employed by Ubuntu.

    I've not found a definite answer - is there one?
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    Re: Rolling Releases

    http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252

    Mark Shuttleworth announced it on his blog on 13.04's release day.

    In the work to underpin a rolling release, we made huge strides in automated quality assessment and performance testing. From here on our, I’m going to treat the cutting edge of Ubuntu as a rolling release, because the team have done such an amazing job of making daily quality a reality. That’s a value that we have all adopted, and the project is much better off for it
    Also in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy milestones have been created to implement the monthly snapshot concept that was argued for in the last UDS, to potentially do away with the alpha and beta milestones.

    Ubuntu 13.05 - Released May 31
    Ubuntu 13.06 - Released June 31
    Ubuntu 13.07 - Released July 31
    Ubuntu 13.08 - Released August 31
    Ubuntu 13.09 - Released September 31
    Ubuntu 13.10 - Released October 31

    and if this theme were to continue into the "T" series it would be as follows

    Ubuntu 13.11 - Released November 31
    Ubuntu 13.12 - Released December 31
    Ubuntu 14.01 - Released January 31
    Ubuntu 14.02 - Released February 31
    Ubuntu 14.03 - Released March 31
    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - Released April 31

    and it would roll on and on...
    Last edited by Mathor; April 28th, 2013 at 06:42 PM.

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    Re: Rolling Releases

    Thanks Mathor, I guess my google search wasn't 'RARING' enough!

    So, in your opinion, does this treatment indicate that the end user will periodically perform apt-get {upgrade update dist-upgrade} and not have to actually install the next release? Or is this just a spin on terminology?
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    Re: Rolling Releases

    As far as I'm aware, if you are running the development release, the proposed plan is to sync the toolchain to point to "T" series when 13.10 is released, so that a dist-upgrade should be all that is needed to continue on to the "T" series.

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    Re: Rolling Releases

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathor View Post
    http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252

    Mark Shuttleworth announced it on his blog on 13.04's release day.



    Also in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy milestones have been created to implement the monthly snapshot concept that was argued for in the last UDS, to potentially do away with the alpha and beta milestones.

    Ubuntu 13.05 - Released May 31
    Ubuntu 13.06 - Released June 31
    Ubuntu 13.07 - Released July 31
    Ubuntu 13.08 - Released August 31
    Ubuntu 13.09 - Released September 31
    Ubuntu 13.10 - Released October 31

    and if this theme were to continue into the "T" series it would be as follows

    Ubuntu 13.11 - Released November 31
    Ubuntu 13.12 - Released December 31
    Ubuntu 14.01 - Released January 31
    Ubuntu 14.02 - Released February 31
    Ubuntu 14.03 - Released March 31
    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - Released April 31

    and it would roll on and on...
    I think the new Ubuntu Monthly builds makes better sense than having Daily Builds, as it should mean less bug slipping through due to having to build the .iso daily.

    During the 13.04 Dev Cycle I had to do at least 3 clean re-installs due to buggy Kernel updates.

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    Re: Rolling Releases

    I'm almost certain that daily builds will also be made. You will have the daily builds, weekly cadence builds, monthly snapshot builds, and 6 month stable release builds. The idea is to make as AS MANY builds as possible. Daily builds are necessary to maintain quality throughout the cycle. The more builds, the more testing, the better the quality. Where the rolling release is a benefit is ceasing to put so much pressure on "supporting" 6 month milestones. If you need complete stability and lots of support, that is what the LTS is for.
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    Re: Rolling Releases

    Also the monthly milestone concept allows for development efforts to be more constructive, by thinking on a month-to-month basis, instead of setting huge goals over a 6 month period and not achieving a lot of those goals. The month-to-month concept allows for development efforts to be more organic and ever-changing.

    http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/

    This shows the goals for this current month. This allows to break down 6 months of work into a bunch of 1 month goals. As you can see, developers only completed about 67 percent of what they set out to accomplish for the cycle. I think in the saucy cycle it'll be easier to accomplish more if work is broken up like that. All the freezes that come with having to produce alphas and betas and stable releases slow down the development process.
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    Re: Rolling Releases

    I can only assume that saucy-proposed is the rolling release.

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    Re: Rolling Releases

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathor View Post

    Ubuntu 13.05 - Released May 31
    Ubuntu 13.06 - Released June 31
    Ubuntu 13.07 - Released July 31
    Ubuntu 13.08 - Released August 31
    Ubuntu 13.09 - Released September 31
    Ubuntu 13.10 - Released October 31

    and if this theme were to continue into the "T" series it would be as follows

    Ubuntu 13.11 - Released November 31
    Ubuntu 13.12 - Released December 31
    Ubuntu 14.01 - Released January 31
    Ubuntu 14.02 - Released February 31
    Ubuntu 14.03 - Released March 31
    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - Released April 31

    and it would roll on and on...
    Not to be picky but June, September, November have only 30 days.
    And Feb 31, I've never seen one of those before

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    Re: Rolling Releases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gavin77 View Post
    Not to be picky but June, September, November have only 30 days.
    And Feb 31, I've never seen one of those before
    don't forget April only has 30 days as well

    January,March,May,July,August,October & December=31 Days
    April,June,September & November=30 Days
    Febuary=28/29 Days

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