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    Smile Re: Be carefull about using Software Updater: 1 package held back in 13.10.

    Quote Originally Posted by deadflowr View Post
    My point is , that shouldn't be an excuse not to help test and fix it.

    If it is not tested in the development stage, then what about the users who install it in stable and the program goes bonkers.

    It's in this stage the we can help prevent that.
    The problem is that Software Updater will quite often offer us a Partial Upgrade during the Development Cycle. Partial Upgrades are usually a NO-NO! That's actually what the main problem is about using it during a Development Release Cycle. Ask any one else in this Sub-Forum that same Question, most of them will tell you the same answer that I am giving you right now.
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    Re: Be carefull about using Software Updater: 1 package held back in 13.10.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevpan815 View Post
    The problem is that Software Updater will quite often offer us a Partial Upgrade during the Development Cycle. Partial Upgrades are usually a NO-NO! That's actually what the main problem is about using it during a Development Release Cycle. Ask any one else in this Sub-Forum that same Question, most of them will tell you the same answer that I am giving you right now.

    Partial Upgrades are partial upgrades and have no bearing on whether to run updates through the software updater or not.
    If you get a partial upgrade request, and don't feel like running it, then cancel it.
    If it's persistent then report it.
    If you have problems like the OP has, then yes run a cli to try to see if it'll fix things.
    But don't avoid something out of fear.
    You are running a development release, after all.
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    Re: Be carefull about using Software Updater: 1 package held back in 13.10.

    When you use the Synaptic updates so the update is the least problems. Synaptic is the best tool for the update because it does not ever provide a partial upgrade but left without upgrading those packages which have dependencies does not update right now. Update-manager does not do that, but offers a partial upgrade that makes the application of that part of the users that is not "dangerous".

    I don´t understand why the Update-manager is even a tool to update the Synaptic is 10 times better, easier, and smarter upgrades and otherwise as the update-manager.

    Users that is not part of the update-manager is indeed dangerous to update tool and when something goes wrong, or, in the worst case, the whole system breaks down then here in the forum to cry and complain.
    Last edited by jppr; April 27th, 2013 at 06:47 AM.

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    Re: Be carefull about using Software Updater: 1 package held back in 13.10.

    Quote Originally Posted by serdotlinecho View Post
    Seriously...up until now, I never use or open Software Updater to uprade my Ubuntu+1, never bother to click the new "A" icon!

    Code:
    serdotlinecho@samalander:~$ date ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    Sat Apr 27 10:20:07 MYT 2013
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      libboost-date-time1.53.0
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      cpp cpp-4.8 g++ g++-4.8 gcc gcc-4.8 gcc-4.8-base glib-networking glib-networking-common
      glib-networking-services libasan0 libatomic1 libcmis-0.3-3 libcolumbus0-0 libcolumbus0-0-common
      libgcc-4.8-dev libgcc1 libgomp1 libitm1 libquadmath0 libstdc++-4.8-dev libstdc++6 linux-libc-dev vim
      vim-common vim-runtime vim-tiny
    27 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 33.2 MB of archives.
    After this operation, 176 kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
    How did you get those updates?

    I've run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and all I get is

    Code:
    roland@steelers:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade[sudo] password for roland: 
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    W: Failed to fetch http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/dists/precise/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'repo.steampowered.com:http' (-11 - System error)
    
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.33 80]
    
    
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    roland@steelers:~$

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    Re: Be carefull about using Software Updater: 1 package held back in 13.10.

    Testers here know and trust the main server. Why that dl.google.com ?

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    Re: Be carefull about using Software Updater: 1 package held back in 13.10.

    Quote Originally Posted by dino99 View Post
    Testers here know and trust the main server. Why that dl.google.com ?
    Ether Google Chrome or Play Music Manager.

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