View Poll Results: What should we do for the next dev cycle?

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  • Close and archive this sub-froum

    32 41.03%
  • Rename to U+1 and continue on

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Thread: Name change

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    Thumbs up Re: Name change

    There are way too many Posts here about 13.04, even after General Release. I say Close and Archice this Sub-Forum. Just my 2 Cents. By the way, just got my IPhone 5 Personal Hotspot working again today as I just entered a new Billing Cycle with Sprint, and I am very Impressed with the Final Version of 13.04! It's a shame that I was NOT able to help you guys test during the final weeks of 13.04 Final Beta to Release due to my 6 GB Personal Hotspot Data Cap, but I just wanted to let you guys know you did a heck of a job with out me, 0 Crashes so far, and I am running 13.04 on all 3 of my Dell Computers! Just FYI!
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    Re: Name change

    As soon as the Saucy toolchain is uploaded, any threads asking about Raring. will be moved to General Help, as it looks like there will be no version name in the sub-forum title, just U+1. Our average user has no idea what U+1 is, so the number of extra threads should be fairly low.

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    Re: Name change

    Then if the Decision has already been made, shouldn't you just plain Remove this Poll, or was the whole idea about the Poll just to test the New Forum's Voting Software with a Trial Run?
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    Re: Name change

    I'm just going by the current results in the poll, it looks like about 60-40 for change.

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    Re: Name change

    hi @all,

    i vote for close and start new.
    reason.
    if you keep this thread going on like it is you will sometime have e.g. 15.04 issues in this thread mixed with 13.04 and versions between. this is a mess.

    best regards

    --christian

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    Re: Name change

    I really don't see why this would create a huge mess. Just one example - I read this on the Lubuntu QA mailing list yesterday:

    https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-qa/msg02271.html

    The relevant part:

    > Hi,
    >
    > First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04
    > release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother than the
    > last one
    >
    > However, it's time to think about the future. During the last cycle,
    > there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of Ubuntu.
    > Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu affect
    > Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone : Lubuntu is
    > a community project, with its own release schedules, its own choices …
    >
    > That's said, let's go with some ideas What I'm going to say, it's
    > a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean
    > arguments if you have another opinion
    >
    > Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for
    > Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready for such
    > commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a good LTS.
    > With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal.
    >
    > So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a LTS version.
    >
    > But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to make it
    > stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because people who
    > install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to make it
    > sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to recommend it. I
    > would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference of all
    > Lubuntu releases.
    To achieve it, I have several goals in mind, items
    > that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can
    > finish them :
    >
    > - Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and able to
    > run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about it later,
    > when you will be able to test it properly).
    > - Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a maximum of
    > languages
    > - Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment, finish the
    > other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make Lubuntu even
    > more beautiful
    >
    > Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be able to
    > make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual.
    >
    > Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small improvements
    > everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics.
    >
    > Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want in this
    > LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the right time
    > to do big changes if we consider they are good.
    >
    > Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10, I'm also
    > thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release,
    > depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural changes,
    > and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due time,
    > but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release if we can
    > do a very good 14.04 LTS.
    >
    > And after 14.04 ?
    >
    > Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt switch over
    > GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may know
    > also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
    > forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes may be an
    > opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a base. It's
    > also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be the final
    > release with LXDE and GTK. We will also be free to make very big
    > changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to recommend,
    > for a long time.
    >
    > To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call QLubuntu,
    > pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ), to test during 13.10 and 14.04, if
    > the option to go with Qt is possible.
    >
    > So, what do you think about it ?
    >
    > Regards,
    > Julien Lavergne
    That's just one small example of how it's impossible for we that test and plan to focus only on the very next version.

    Another example is the implementation (or lack thereof) of gnome 3.8 during Raring, many of us want and/or need to look further ahead - particularly if we maintain large numbers of PC's

    Yet a third example, this time where it's sometimes necessary to discuss a stable release in U+1, is when I started to look at gnome 3's fallback session:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870612

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873765

    While we were already in Precise development it was impossible to begin without trying things in a stable Oneiric base.

    So there are issues where discussion of older stable and/or distant upcoming releases is inevitable. But that's why we have moderators

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    Re: Name change

    Quote Originally Posted by eyjoel View Post
    hi @all,

    i vote for close and start new.
    reason.
    if you keep this thread going on like it is you will sometime have e.g. 15.04 issues in this thread mixed with 13.04 and versions between. this is a mess.

    best regards

    --christian
    Not so.

    People trying to post to threads created today in 2015 are going to find that either

    a - we get reports of it and close it
    b - the autoclose plugin works ok and they can't post in it anyway

    If you are actually talking about this thread - then once we've made a decision and applied it then it'll be closed anyway.

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    Re: Name change

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfy View Post
    Not so.

    People trying to post to threads created today in 2015 are going to find that either

    a - we get reports of it and close it
    b - the autoclose plugin works ok and they can't post in it anyway

    If you are actually talking about this thread - then once we've made a decision and applied it then it'll be closed anyway.
    Sounds sensible

    BTW I probably owe you a personal apology, if you don't know why ignore this, otherwise please accept my apology for being a stupid jerk

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    Re: Name change

    One more reason, and possibly the best reason, we should just be U+1 is displayed here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2138987

    We who truly test a lot know what to do and when to do it. And we know when to ignore bad advice

    As long as a release name is attached to U+1 we increase the danger of noobs diving into something they don't understand

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    Re: Name change

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    Sounds sensible

    BTW I probably owe you a personal apology, if you don't know why ignore this, otherwise please accept my apology for being a stupid jerk
    I've no idea

    Do I have to read 10k posts now

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