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    Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Most dogs would be running across continents and looking after their own litters, not running around gardens and fields looking after their plastic toys. Don't you think it's cruel to confine animals to such small living environments?

    We're essentially kidnapping them (and often castrating/spaying them) and abusing their natural instinct to seek security in the creature that feeds them, which should (in nature) be their mother or the pack.

    How would we feel if an alien race came down, killed all of the humans they deemed threatening, took the weak ones and bred them for their own needs, then much later using their existences as emotional crutches and denying them the freedom to choose outside of an environment they can't comprehend?

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Maybe so. But it seems like my freeloading cat is living better than she would be living out in the wild...

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by malspa View Post
    Maybe so. But it seems like my freeloading cat is living better than she would be living out in the wild...
    So do you think your cat would enjoy freeloading off you eating processed food more than taking care of its own healthy litter in the wild whilst eating tastey raw flesh? I don't. There's risk involved, but the rewards are much better imo. We should release them all into a wild environment in which we are not allowed to enter imo, but instead we maintain it, build heavy and humane security for our farms and ensure it's a purely wild environment that spans continents.

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Jenova, have you considered therapy?

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    What makes you think they would rather fend for themselves in the wild?

    Quote Originally Posted by J-E-N-O-V-A View Post
    So do you think your cat would enjoy freeloading off you eating processed food more than taking care of its own healthy litter in the wild whilst eating tastey raw flesh? I don't. There's risk involved, but the rewards are much better imo. We should release them all into a wild environment in which we are not allowed to enter imo, but instead we maintain it, build heavy and humane security for our farms and ensure it's a purely wild environment that spans continents.
    I can tell you from a lot of experience that a cat would rather be taken care of. We have a ton of stray cats in our neighborhood that are free to live wild. Guess what they do. They hang around the people that feed them and adopt them as their family. They have the choice of living in the wild, yet they choose to freeload off of people who feed them and love them.

    Also, there is the whole fact that cats and dogs will follow you if you move. My parents have had plenty of dogs and cats in the country that lived outside and were free to roam. They always came back to the house.

    I'm no dog or cat lover, but this argument is ridiculous. I do have issues with forcing wild animals to become pets. But to take a domesticated animal and force it to live in the wild is way crueler than lovingly taking care of the animals that have never learned to live in the wild.

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    Jenova, have you considered therapy?
    Lol.
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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    Jenova, have you considered therapy?
    lol. I sometimes wonder about people and really our whole societies deeper relationships with pets. It's pretty sad. Yes a dog is "more loyal" but I think jenova hit it on the head with the whole emotional crutch thing...

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by J-E-N-O-V-A View Post
    So do you think your cat would enjoy freeloading off you eating processed food more than taking care of its own healthy litter in the wild whilst eating tastey raw flesh? I don't. There's risk involved, but the rewards are much better imo. We should release them all into a wild environment in which we are not allowed to enter imo, but instead we maintain it, build heavy and humane security for our farms and ensure it's a purely wild environment that spans continents.
    Around here, THEY would be the tasty raw flesh. Coyotes have no moral compunction about a fresh cat meal. People who spend time in the wooded peripherals of developed area periodically find tufts of fur, bones and a flea collar. The real world ain't a Disney movie.

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by J-E-N-O-V-A View Post
    So do you think your cat would enjoy freeloading off you eating processed food more than taking care of its own healthy litter in the wild whilst eating tastey raw flesh? I don't. There's risk involved, but the rewards are much better imo. We should release them all into a wild environment in which we are not allowed to enter imo, but instead we maintain it, build heavy and humane security for our farms and ensure it's a purely wild environment that spans continents.
    I think you're a real riot.

    Modern day domestic pets are species that have had the wild bred out of them over centuries. If we left them at birth (or worse, turned them out after we'd raised them) in the wild, they'd die a very swift and unpleasant death.

    But thanks for the larf.

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinballwizard View Post
    I think you're a real riot.

    Modern day domestic pets are species that have had the wild bred out of them over centuries. If we left them at birth (or worse, turned them out after we'd raised them) in the wild, they'd die a very swift and unpleasant death.

    But thanks for the larf.
    Ah yes because evolution is on a scale of centuries (/sarc)

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    Re: Is it cruel to keep pets?

    Quote Originally Posted by J-E-N-O-V-A View Post
    Ah yes because evolution is on a scale of centuries (/sarc)
    Shame. I said "breeding" not evolution.

    But nevermind. Stupid thread is stupid.

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