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    12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    I am trying to install 12.10 on my Windows 8 computer but it does not see my SSD during install. Booting from a USB, which works fine. When I arrive at the section where I choose where to install, only my rotating drive is seen. The SSD is not even an option. I am using a Kingston SVP200S3120G SSD drive. Windows 8 has been running fine on the drive for about 4 months now so I have no reason to believe there is a problem with the drive. I have installed Ubuntu next to Windows (on the same drive) on many other computers with no problem. Although this is my first time with Windows 8. Any suggestions?

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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Is this a new computer with Windows 8 pre-installed? Or one where you installed Windows 8 yourself?

    Post this from live installer DVD or flash in live mode, terminal.

    sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print
    sudo parted /dev/sdb unit s print

    Do you have any Intel SRT implemented? That uses RAID which can cause issues.
    If you have used all 4 primary partitions with MBR(msdos) that is an issue.
    If you used Windows to create more than 4 partitions it may convert to dynamic partitions which does not work with Linux.
    Last edited by oldfred; March 31st, 2013 at 11:55 PM.
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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Thank you oldfred.
    Answers and output:
    Self built computer, self installed Windows 8 Pro. No RAID. Less than 4 partitions. See following output of partd and fdisk. The good news is Ubuntu definitely recognizes the disk (/dev/sda is the desired destination). But it is not presented as an option to install.
    partd output /dev/sda:
    Model: ATA KINGSTON SVP200S (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sda: 234441648s
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos

    Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
    1 2048s 718847s 716800s primary ntfs boot
    2 718848s 234438655s 233719808s primary ntfs

    fdisk output /dev/sda:
    Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders, total 234441648 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0d229e39

    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sda1 * 2048 718847 358400 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda2 718848 234438655 116859904 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

    partd output /dev/sdb:
    Model: ATA ST2000DM001-1CH1 (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdb: 3907029168s
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
    Partition Table: msdos

    Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
    1 2048s 3907026943s 3907024896s primary ntfs

    fdisk output /dev/sdb:
    Disk /dev/sdb: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders, total 3907029168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x44cd0683

    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sdb1 2048 3907026943 1953512448 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Your 120GB drive is full partitioned. So installer will not have any auto options to install as there is no unallocated.

    If you partition in advance with gparted, does gparted show partitions? Or you should be able to use Manual install or Something else. But we normally suggest resizing NTFS partitions only with Windows and running chkdsk immediately after if not the boot partition. But do not use Windows to create new partitions.

    Do SSD need customization?
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981478
    Arch suggests gpt for SSD. Only if installing Windows on older system may you want MBR as Windows only boots from gpt with UEFI.
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2003022
    https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Ok. I will check into this more, but a couple quick observations. 1) In the past I have always used Ubuntu to re-partition a fully partitioned drive with no problems at all. I wonder if something has changed in 12.10? 2) sdb is fully partitioned as well, yet Ubuntu offers it up for install like I am used to seeing. Seems odd on the surface, but maybe I'm missing something obvious. I will check into re-partitioning via Windows to give back 20gb to sda and see what happens then.

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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Solved. Shrunk Windows 8 partition on sda from within Windows by 25gb. Rebooted and like magic Ubuntu installed. Still doesn't really answer my 2 questions above though. Has something changed in the basic install such that you can no longer shrink/grow partitions within the installer? Is that now an advanced option that I didn't notice? Also doesn't explain why sdb was available to install when that disk was fully used with a partition. Anyway, it's working now and it's stupid fast on my newly build system with SSD. Thanks a bunch.
    On a seperate note, I am not a Unity fan, AT ALL. Back in the day I was a huge fan on Compiz and liked all the visual gooides it had to offer. Unity is way too, from what I can tell, has zero fun options. I used to brag to my Windows buddies about how visually pleasing Ubuntu was compared to WIndows. I can no longer do that. Finally, I have never gotten dual displays to work in Ubuntu where they act as extended displays to eachother. All it ever does is just mirror. Might as well have just one display. I know, way off topic. If needed I can open a new post.

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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    I think the issue is Windows 8. It is always hibernated, unless you turn it off. And if dual booting it probably is a good idea to turn it off.
    The NTFS driver will not let you mount NTFS partitions that need chkdsk or have hibernation flag set. So that blocks partition changes as well.

    WARNING for Windows 8 Dual-Booters
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953674
    It defaults shutdown to a hybrid hibernation/off state for fast boot
    http://www.kapilarya.com/how-to-enab...p-in-windows-8
    But then files may be corrupted similar to Windows 7 Hibernation:
    http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.ca/...rid-sleep.html
    http://superuser.com/questions/14472...te-w-dual-boot


    12 monitors Natty Warhal - now older
    This is a success story for installing 3 ATI Firepro 2260's and 1 Radeon HD 5870 in the same computer.
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    I tried Unity, some say they used it for a while and now like it. I still use the gnome fallback or gnome-panel that is very similar to the old gnome2.


    gnome3 classic
    sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
    On login screen click on logo/cog-wheel/star and choose
    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/classicgnome
    12.04 LTS / Precise Classic (No effects) Tweaks and tricks kansasnoob & cortman
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pr...eClassicTweaks
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2090021
    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/g...g-ever-changed

    There should be a new one for April, but i do not have it. Users show off customization with various desktops.

    Magnificent March Screenshot Thread
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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Thanks, great info. I don't know what I was thinking. I have been able to get extended desktop to work on Ubuntu. I think it was different distributions I've had problems with. It's working. Still don't like Unity I'll be checking out the threads you posted to see if there's anyway to get my gnome back.

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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Please mark thread as solved. If I have further questions about Unity (and how to escape it) I'll post a new thread in a different section. Thank you!

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    Re: 12.10 not seeing my SSD during install

    Glad you have it working.

    There are a lot of threads on various choices for DE and its seems with all the choices everyone has a different favorite. You can install more than one and at log-in choose which you want to use.

    We have a temporary work around on Solved, see my signature below.
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