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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    There's always gnome-shell...

    well at least until the gnome-devs completely implode.
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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    Also, unity is the kind of desktop environment that you need to use for a few weeks...i imagine you just took a quick look and said..."no way"....well, if you would adapt a positive attitude and stick with it for awhile, you might be really surprised...when unity first came out, many felt the way you did...but since then, many have turned around and now are big fans of it!

    The best way to think of it is as dock that "auto hides" on the left side of the screen which is basically a "shortcuts taskbar"....you simply place all your favorites and frequently used apps on it (for quick "1 click" access) and for apps you use very infrequently, just open the "dash" (search button on top) and start typing the name of the app (say "terminal") and viola...there it is!

    It also has a really neat desktop switcher and you can also reduce the unity dock's size (which i always do,i don't like the icons that big)....in appearance settings...

    Also, it (unity) keeps getting improved by ubuntu...i am running 13.04 development and it's even better then ever...and unity is a heck of a lot more intuitive to use then windows 8....(quite frankly, THAT is a mess)

    "Cairo Dock" session on ubuntu would make a nice option (if you prefer a dock on the bottom) i have used it and it's pretty cool, but eventually i decided to just go with the default (unity)...

    Sounds like you never used anything with a "dock" (like a mac for example) or any of the docks available on linux....basically, you are just stuck in the old 2-panel old fashioned way of doing things...
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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    Mate is almost identical to stock Gnome 2, but of course Ubuntu 10.04 didn't ship with stock Gnome 2. It had Ubuntu patches and other enhancements (notify odd, indicators etc)

    If you can't live with Mate as close as it is to Gnome 2, or anything better than Mate, then you'll have to use Windows 7 until it goes out of support. Then sell your computer. Gnome 2 is not coming back.

    It was abandoned by its developers over a year ago and they are very happy with their new Gnome. Ubuntu is happy with Unity and they will not revive a desktop that was widely derided for looking old-fashioned and being bunged up with legacy code and annoyingly buggy and inflexible.
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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    In June 2012 TechRepublic writer Jack
    Wallen, who had been very critical of
    early versions of Unity said “I’ve
    noticed something lately. Since Ubuntu
    12.04 was released, and I migrated
    over from Linux Mint, I’m working
    much more efficiently. This isn’t really
    so much a surprise to me, but to
    many of the detractors who assume
    Unity a very unproductive desktop…
    well, I can officially say they are
    wrong… I realize that many people out
    there have spurned Unity (I was one
    of them for a long time), but the more
    I use it, the more I realize that
    Canonical really did their homework
    on how to help end users more
    efficiently interact with their
    computers. Change is hard – period.
    For many, the idea of change is such a
    painful notion they wind up missing
    out on some incredible advancements.
    Unity is one such advancement.”

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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    Interesting line breaks, what happened there?
    You think that's air you're breathing now?

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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    @JSeymour, since you don't seem to like any of the Ubuntu derivatives, and 10.04 desktop eols in May of this year. Why stick with Ubuntu? There are several other distributions that still use the old Gnome 2 interface. The only thing you will have to relearn is package management, everything else is the same.

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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    come on guys.....it is been almost 2 years since the unity was launched. it is a very good DE and i use it on a CAD program and i can say that i have got the same productivity as in wind 7.
    get over gnome 2....it is dead.
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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    Quote Originally Posted by craig10x View Post
    Also, unity is the kind of desktop environment that you need to use for a few weeks...i imagine you just took a quick look and said..."no way"....well, if you would adapt a positive attitude and stick with it for awhile, you might be really surprised...when unity first came out, many felt the way you did...but since then, many have turned around and now are big fans of it!
    People should stop using this "if you don't like it you should use it more" argument. I can't fully express my feelings about this argument because I am a gentleman and this forum has a code of conduct.

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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    Quote Originally Posted by tartalo View Post
    People should stop using this "if you don't like it you should use it more" argument. I can't fully express my feelings about this argument because I am a gentleman and this forum has a code of conduct.
    There is a point here. A change of habits can be difficult, and you cannot have a good definitive opinion when you did not at any time seriously attempted to use the product.

    For those preferring the classical desktop, there remain plenty of modern, up to date opportunities: mate, cinnamon, xfce desktop, and even gnome 3, that now officially supports a classic mode.

    We have more choice than ever.

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    Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS & Unity: Ubuntu's "Win8?"

    Thank you vanadium..the point i made IS a good argument...i can tell you from my own personal experience that i reacted much like he did when i first encountered unity..

    In my case, my favorite desktop was NOT the old ubuntu's that had the 2 panels (never liked that no matter how long i worked with it) but rather the linux mint's style (or windows 7 style)
    of lower panel only with a "slab style menu"....which is why for quite some time i migrated to Linux Mint because it was there by default and i didn't have to "customize" like i did on ubuntu to create that
    desktop...

    So, initially, can't say i totally hated unity but just didn't warm to it at all...because it was DIFFERENT...
    After a few weeks i said...hmmm maybe i should spend a few weeks with it and have a more positive attitude (look at it like a new "adventure") and THEN see how i feel about it...

    Well, after that time, i said...you know, this is pretty COOL...i can definitely work with this...and i have ever since

    So, i suggest he try it again for a few weeks with a more open mind...and if he still doesn't warm to it, then, as you mentioned, there are number of alternate desktops he can add to ubuntu without actually leaving ubuntu....
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