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    ubuntu installation doesn't detect windows 8

    Hello,

    I've done a lot of searching for an explanation to this. I have a new computer with windows 8 pre-installed. this was my procedure;

    partition hard drive from windows 8 to make room for ubuntu
    burn ubuntu 12.04.2 64bit (this should have uefi support) to CD
    disable secure boot
    boot from cd in uefi mode

    now i get the normal installation interface however then i get the option to either erase hard disk and install ubuntu or manuallly partition the drive, but no option to install ubuntu alongside windows 8 as win8 has not been detected. Would it be alright to just manually partition the drive despite the current OS not being detected, or would there be problems later? is this something to do with the efi system partition? Maybe i should try ubuntu 12.10?

    I'm a noob btw!

    Any help/guidance would be really helpful!

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    Re: ubuntu installation doesn't detect windows 8

    I too am having issues with installing Ubuntu alongside windows 8. I am experiencing the same issues as you are. No option to install alongside windows 8 as it does not detect it. I tried to follow the steps in other threads to no avail. My computer is a HP Envy h8-1414 desktop. I am not sure if its because I have 4 partitions or what, but I have given up on trying to install Ubuntu for now as it has become too annoying. I am going to wait for the next version of Ubuntu to see if it will detect windows 8 and install on its own.

    My mistake, it has five partitions on it, and it is gpt partition. Not sure if your partitions are gpt as well.
    Last edited by flipflip47; April 13th, 2013 at 08:30 PM.

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    Re: ubuntu installation doesn't detect windows 8

    Hi

    I've just tried to install Ubuntu 13.04 alongside Windows 8 on a Dell Inspiron 15R and run into the same problem - the installer doesn't detect Windows. It says it has not detected another installed OS. If I boot to the Ubuntu desktop, I can see the partitions on the hard disk but the installer is failing to recognise the partition to boot from. The partition layout loks rather more complex than I'm used to:

    1: ESP - 524MB - "EFI system" - FAT
    2: DIAGS - 42MB - FAT
    3: Microsoft Reserved - 134MB - unknown partition type
    4: WINRETOO... - 524MB - "Microsoft Windows Recovery Environment" - NTFS
    5: OS - 986GB - "Basic Data" - NTFS
    6: PBR Image - 13GB - "Microsoft Windows Recovery Environment" - NTFS

    I'm booting in UEFI mode so I assume this must be GPT partitioning.

    It appears that partition 5 is the main Windows/data partition, but it's not being recognised. I've tried turning Secure Boot off but (unsurprisingly) it makes no difference - the problem is not booting (the USB flash drive with Ubuntu on it boots just fine) but recognising Windows.

    I need to be able to boot both Wiondows 8 and Ubuntu on this laptop, so help would be much appreciated.

    Regards

    Andy

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    Re: ubuntu installation doesn't detect windows 8

    Your Windows partitions do not look like they are in the correct order? System reserved must be just before Main Install.
    Microsoft suggested partitions including reserved partition for gpt & UEFI:
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...8WS.10%29.aspx
    Older Windows info on gpt - 2008 updated 2011
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/wind.../gg463525.aspx
    Windows technical info on gpt and GUIDs
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/wi...sktop/aa365449
    Order on drive is important:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microso...rved_Partition
    Windows 8 info
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../hh824947.aspx

    Make a full backup of Windows and of the efi partition. And make a Windows repair flash drive.

    Backup windows before install - post by Mark Phelps
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...0#post12611710
    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp
    Another suggestion by srs5694
    http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm

    Windows 8 UEFI repair USB must be FAT32
    http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/For...-166dddf32205/
    http://www.ghacks.net/2012/11/01/how...m-repair-disc/

    Then use Windows own disk tools to shrink the main Windows partition and reboot so it can run chkdsk.
    Make sure fast boot is off and check to see if Windows boots with secure boot off or not. Some do and some do not. If secure boot is required you will need the UEFI version of grub with Microsoft signed shim and signed kernels.

    See also my signature.

    Some other models of Dell that may be similar?

    Dell UltraBook - Instructions & Details in Post #15 & 16 Devine Shine
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144853
    Installing Ubuntu 12.10 x64 on Dell XPS 13 Alongside Windows from USB New user with Details post 10
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2108450
    Dell Inspiron 17R SE - 12.04.2 but otherwise similar to XPS13 above
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125701
    Dell XPS 14 Ultrabook what works
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116597
    Dell 14z used Dell Recovery and Refind
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2125397
    HOWTO Ubuntu 12.10 x64 Dell XPS 14 (UEFI + Intel Rapid Start Technology + Flashcache), bumblebee - Details
    Do not understand why flash cache is required, just install to SSD?
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117166

    Question about Dell's Ubuntu Preloaded XPS 13 Developer Laptop Link to review, Sputnik
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106590
    For more info on UEFI boot install & repair - Regularly Updated :
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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    Re: ubuntu installation doesn't detect windows 8

    Hello, and thanks for your advice oldfred.

    By the time I read this I had already found a solution (maybe not the best one) in these posts:

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...tallingWindows

    Thecore of it was to resize the Windows from within Windows, install in the free space (ignoring the fact that the Ubuntu installer can't see Windows), and then install and run boot-repair. Maybe there was abetter, cleaner way, but I have Windows and Ubuntu both running now.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    Your Windows partitions do not look like they are in the correct order? System reserved must be just before Main Install.
    The partition order was as the machine came, pre-installed with Windows 8 by Dell. It seems to work and as I don't yet know much about GPT and UEFI I'd rather not mess around too much and risk trashing the system. I will review the links you provided to learn more, though - thanks.

    Regards

    Andy

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