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    amd64 or i368

    I am runing lubuntu 12.10 on a pc with a Pentium D, which i think is 64 bit but when i try to install AMD64 versions of software I sometimes get a message saying wrong architecture,and the i386 verson works. Am I misundersdtanding the difference between the 2. Are AMD64 versions purely for AMD processors? Any help would be most welcome.Thanks.Paul.

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    Re: amd64 or i368

    AMD64 is a convention based on what is more or less a historical accident: AMD was the first to bring a 64 bit processor to the consumer market. You will often hear it referred to as x86_64 these days.

    The Pentium D should be a 64 bit CPU -- two cores -- but that may not necessarily be true depending on how early it was.

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    and we can tell for sure if you are running the 64 bit version.
    Last edited by QIII; March 21st, 2013 at 11:45 PM.
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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Quote Originally Posted by paulie-m View Post
    I am runing lubuntu 12.10 on a pc with a Pentium D, which i think is 64 bit but when i try to install AMD64 versions of software I sometimes get a message saying wrong architecture,and the i386 verson works. Am I misundersdtanding the difference between the 2. Are AMD64 versions purely for AMD processors? Any help would be most welcome.Thanks.Paul.
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    Re: amd64 or i368

    it says i686. does this mean AMD64 architecture?

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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Quote Originally Posted by paulie-m View Post
    it says i686. does this mean AMD64 architecture?
    you are running a 32 bit OS thats why x64 dont work. if it was 64 bit it would say something like x86_64

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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Sorry to be a pest but could you clarify just 1 more thing? You say i am running 32bit os. does that mean my processor is 32bit or could a install a 64bit os if,for instance i had >4GB memory and wanted to acess it? thanks.

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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Quote Originally Posted by paulie-m View Post
    Sorry to be a pest but could you clarify just 1 more thing? You say i am running 32bit os. does that mean my processor is 32bit or could a install a 64bit os if,for instance i had >4GB memory and wanted to acess it? thanks.
    Pentium D is a 64 bit processor, but you installed a 32 bit version of Ubuntu which is the default download.

    You dont need 4Gb to use 64 bit either, but you need 64 bit to use 4GB or a PAE kernel.

    If you have 1 Gb you can still use a 64 bit OS but you wont get much benefit.

    You will need to reinstall if you want x64, there is no upgrade path.
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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Cool. Thanks very much for help. I understand now. Cheers, Paul.

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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Post the results of

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    cat /proc/cpuinfo
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    Re: amd64 or i368

    Code:
    paul@paul-ESPRIMO-P:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor       : 0
    vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
    cpu family      : 15
    model           : 4
    model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
    stepping        : 7
    microcode       : 0x3
    cpu MHz         : 2793.106
    cache size      : 1024 KB
    physical id     : 0
    siblings        : 2
    core id         : 0
    cpu cores       : 2
    apicid          : 0
    initial apicid  : 0
    fdiv_bug        : no
    hlt_bug         : no
    f00f_bug        : no
    coma_bug        : no
    fpu             : yes
    fpu_exception   : yes
    cpuid level     : 5
    wp              : yes
    flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
    bogomips        : 5586.21
    clflush size    : 64
    cache_alignment : 128
    address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management:
    
    processor       : 1
    vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
    cpu family      : 15
    model           : 4
    model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
    stepping        : 7
    microcode       : 0x3
    cpu MHz         : 2793.106
    cache size      : 1024 KB
    physical id     : 0
    siblings        : 2
    core id         : 1
    cpu cores       : 2
    apicid          : 1
    initial apicid  : 1
    fdiv_bug        : no
    hlt_bug         : no
    f00f_bug        : no
    coma_bug        : no
    fpu             : yes
    fpu_exception   : yes
    cpuid level     : 5
    wp              : yes
    flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
    bogomips        : 5586.21
    clflush size    : 64
    cache_alignment : 128
    address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management:
    This is what it says.
    Last edited by QIII; March 21st, 2013 at 11:58 PM. Reason: Added code flags.

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