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    What's wrong with linux?

    I am just trying to start a conversation what's messed up on Linux. What's not working like it should. Tell me your opinions.

    I think we are waisting lots of resources developing several kernels at same time. And publishing so many different distros.

    I am happy because Linux finally has native steam client. It will benefit the hole linux community to have native linux games.

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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by deri View Post

    I think we are waisting lots of resources developing several kernels at same time. And publishing so many different distros.
    Well, that's kind of the whole idea.

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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    You're not really starting a conversation, but rather joining one.

    For my two cents though, the oft heralded fragmentation of the gnu/linux world, is a benefit for all, as diversification is a good thing.
    Monotonous development has a habit of creating some horrible stuff.
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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    How would you like it if your favorite ice cream shop only offered vanilla...Although I still have windows on my machine I rarely use it. Having one flavor would be the equivalent of what windows is about. A lot of us have abandoned windows altogether or use it sparingly because we don't agree with the way Microsoft operates. So no, we don't want linux to become an open source version of windows. Diversity and competition keeps everyone on their toes and honest. In that type of environment everyone wins.
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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    How about the work used to maintain several kernels that are basically doing the same thing, newer just better supported.

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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    But you don't have the time and money to test all the ice creams that the shopkeeper offers. Seriously there is something like 100 distros. And that's not even all of them. I don't see this amount of distros improving the hole community.

    I don't know exactly how this thing works.

    But let us assume that I have a distro called mylinux And I create a feedback site like launchpad for it. To fix issues, problems, bugs etc.

    Going through those posts and trying to figure them out takes a lot of time.

    And I bet that those same issues are on other same linux that was used to build mylinux.

    I am trying to say that we are trying to fix the same problems multiple times.
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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    There are so many Linux distributions because the software licenses allow it.

    This article talks about some of your concerns:
    http://go2linux.garron.me/mt/linux-h...butions-1.html

    If that article doesn't convince you, there are many more to choose from: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=why+so+man...+distributions

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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    Quote Originally Posted by deri View Post
    But you don't have the time and money to test all the ice creams that the shopkeeper offers. Seriously there is something like 100 distros. And that's not even all of them. I don't see this amount of distros improving the hole community.

    I don't know exactly how this thing works.

    But let us assume that I have a distro called mylinux And I create a feedback site like launchpad for it. To fix issues, problems, bugs etc.

    Going through those posts and trying to figure them out takes a lot of time.

    And I bet that those same issues are on other same linux that was used to build mylinux.

    I am trying to say that we are trying to fix the same problems multiple times.
    That's not how it works. Ubuntu devs fix Ubuntu specific issues. If a bug is raised in launchpad about rhythmbox, for example, the bug is sent to the rhythmbox project, who fix it and send the fix back to Ubuntu and all the other distros.

    If the bug is at kernel level, the bug is sent to the kernel devs who fix it and send the fix to Ubuntu and all the distros.

    So having lots of distros and lots of bug trackers does not hinder development so long as the bugs get sent to the right place.

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    Re: What's wrong with linux?

    Greetings all,

    in trying to establish a audio/video home studio, I went through some ten years of unspeakable Windows misery; on XP, still - where for every problem solved you'd get at at least three fresh ones back, time and anon. That was until a flatmate introduced me to Linux Ubuntu, about three or four years ago.

    What I hate most about Windows is how insufferably patronising it can be; and a real pain in the backside if serious problems occur. Compared to this, Linux is a breath of fresh air, in my experience: my current platform is DreamStudio 12.04 LTS - and I'm really chuffed with it.

    For some Linux aspects, however, a grade in IT seems to be required. As a relative latecomer in the IT area, I'm definitely not in this league - so if more complicated errors occur and I can't get them sorted out via the forums, I'm stuck. I'll never make the grade as an IT engineer, I suspect, so I'd need some hands-on support, from time to time. There isn't any in Ubuntu that I know of - and that's a bit of a flaw, I think: in the whole of London, where I live, I know of only one business and two individuals to turn to if things are going a little over my head!

    The same goes for some applications: video capturing, for instance. Try and get an EasyCap capturing device to work in Ubuntu - and you'll find yourself in a right nightmare. It goes way beyond the scope of average users like me; and testament to this are most contributions regarding the subject on Ubuntu forums: highly specialistic, almost without exception. Music notation is also slightly cumbersome and time-consuming, since it is impossible to put in more than one note at a time.

    Much as I'd like to ditch Windows completely, it's just not going to happen, I'm afraid. At present, I'm using the best of Ubuntu in combination with the best of Windows 7: DreamStudio for music production (Audacity, Rackarrak -Ardour, sometimes; considering Hydrogen and some virtual keyboards) and some aspects of video processing (VLC for video format transformation, PiTiVi for editing).

    For easy music notation, however, I still turn to Sibelius on Windows (AudioScore in particular); and Windows is also the place to go for actually capturing VHS and DVD content without any fuss whatsoever. In other words: Ubuntu 12.04 is, was and will remain my main staple, without a sliver of adoubt - but Windows still comes in as a handy auxiliary for the (very few) things for which no satisfactory solution is available in Ubuntu.

    For me personally, taking the best of two worlds seems the only solution conceivable, under the circumstances. And, by the by, the one I'm most comfortable with.

    tnob
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