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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    How to make a huge buzz ?

    i feel Canonical knows it very well (sadly a bit too agressive about X & wayland devs, and not so elegant ) and now everyone around the Linux world have a possible opinion about it. Was that the first target ? Maybe now the "dormant" X team will revive a bit that oldish piece of code, to please a bit better whats Canonical glance at.

    At the end of 2013 we will be able to compare all the work done

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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    This current type of indecision puts everyone between a rock and a hardplace. It makes Ubuntu core look skittish. I mean , either stick with what works or move past it and get on with the project.
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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    think about what could be the motivation for Canonical to create it's own display manager ?
    What are you suggesting? This is the licensing for the MIR code.

    GNU GPL v3, GNU LGPL v2.1, Other/Open Source (Digia Qt LGPL Exception version 1.1 )
    https://launchpad.net/qmir

    http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/..._EXCEPTION.txt

    No one in Canonical from Mark Shuttleworth down is denying that X and Wayland are not capable of doing a lot of stuff but they say neither of them meet the needs of what Canonical wants to do with its convergence strategy.

    In summary, we have not chosen Wayland/Weston as our basis for delivering a next-generation user experience as it does not fulfill our requirements completely. More to this, with our protocol- and platform-agnostic approach, we can make sure that we reach our goal of a consistent and beautiful user experience across platforms and device form factors. However, Wayland support could be added either by providing a Wayland-specific frontend implementation for our display server or by providing a client-side implementation of libwayland that ultimately talks to Mir.
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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    Quote Originally Posted by grahammechanical View Post
    What are you suggesting? This is the licensing for the MIR code.



    https://launchpad.net/qmir

    http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/..._EXCEPTION.txt

    No one in Canonical from Mark Shuttleworth down is denying that X and Wayland are not capable of doing a lot of stuff but they say neither of them meet the needs of what Canonical wants to do with its convergence strategy.

    More rock solid research.

    I eat crow once again.

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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    @ventrical
    Still no luck here on my Intel machine...
    Code:
    root@raring:~# lspci | grep VGA
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
    root@raring:~# 
    root@raring:~# apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep Version
    Version: 2:2.21.3+git20130306.779fc0b2-0ubuntu0sarvatt
    root@raring:~# 
    root@raring:~# uname -a
    Linux raring 3.8.0-11-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 5 20:32:48 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    I'm not sure if it's because of the different graphics chipset or if there's a regression in the xorg-edgers driver.
    Which Intel driver are you using?
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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    @ grahammechanical

    As I see it, the motivation from Canonical is an attempt to control.
    First the desktop (Unity) and now the display manager MIR
    It has nothing to do with the license but, as I see it, a lot to do with control.

    What will happen to all other buntu's now ? Will they have to use MIR too ?

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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesemill View Post
    @ventrical
    Still no luck here on my Intel machine...
    Code:
    root@raring:~# lspci | grep VGA
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
    root@raring:~# 
    root@raring:~# apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep Version
    Version: 2:2.21.3+git20130306.779fc0b2-0ubuntu0sarvatt
    root@raring:~# 
    root@raring:~# uname -a
    Linux raring 3.8.0-11-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 5 20:32:48 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    I'm not sure if it's because of the different graphics chipset or if there's a regression in the xorg-edgers driver.
    Which Intel driver are you using?
    lshw

    Code:
      *-display
                 description: VGA compatible controller
                 product: 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
                 vendor: Intel Corporation
                 physical id: 2
                 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
                 version: 04
                 width: 32 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
                 configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
                 resources: irq:16 memory:cfe80000-cfefffff ioport:b800(size=8) memory:d0000000-dfffffff memory:cfe40000-cfe7ffff
            *-multimedia
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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesemill View Post
    @ventrical

    I'm not sure if it's because of the different graphics chipset or if there's a regression in the xorg-edgers driver.
    Which Intel driver are you using?

    I'm just making sure .. have you got all of these?
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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    Code:
    rob@raring:~$ aptitude search mir | grep "^i"
    i   libmirclient-demos              - Display server for Ubuntu - example client
    i A libmirclient-dev                - Display server for Ubuntu - development he
    i   libmirclient0                   - Display server for Ubuntu - client library
    i A libmirprotobuf-dev              - Display server for Ubuntu - protocol defin
    i A libmirprotobuf0                 - Display server for Ubuntu - protocol imple
    i A libmirserver0                   - Display server for Ubuntu - server library
    i   mir                             - Display server for Ubuntu - server executa
    Everything except libmirserver-dev, I'll install that and see if it makes a difference.

    Edit - Looks like I'll have to wait a while...
    Code:
    rob@raring:~$ sudo apt-get install libmirserver-dev
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:
    
    The following packages have unmet dependencies.
     libmirserver-dev : Depends: libmirserver0 (= 0.0.2bzr478raring0) but 0.0.2+bzr466raring1 is to be installed
                        Depends: libmirprotobuf-dev (= 0.0.2bzr478raring0) but 0.0.2+bzr466raring1 is to be installed
    E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
    Last edited by Cheesemill; March 7th, 2013 at 09:39 PM.
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    Re: Who wants to test MIR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesemill View Post
    Code:
    rob@raring:~$ aptitude search mir | grep "^i"
    i   libmirclient-demos              - Display server for Ubuntu - example client
    i A libmirclient-dev                - Display server for Ubuntu - development he
    i   libmirclient0                   - Display server for Ubuntu - client library
    i A libmirprotobuf-dev              - Display server for Ubuntu - protocol defin
    i A libmirprotobuf0                 - Display server for Ubuntu - protocol imple
    i A libmirserver0                   - Display server for Ubuntu - server library
    i   mir                             - Display server for Ubuntu - server executa
    Everything except libmirserver-dev, I'll install that and see if it makes a difference.

    Edit - Looks like I'll have to wait a while...
    Code:
    rob@raring:~$ sudo apt-get install libmirserver-dev
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
    requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
    distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
    or been moved out of Incoming.
    The following information may help to resolve the situation:
    
    The following packages have unmet dependencies.
     libmirserver-dev : Depends: libmirserver0 (= 0.0.2bzr478raring0) but 0.0.2+bzr466raring1 is to be installed
                        Depends: libmirprotobuf-dev (= 0.0.2bzr478raring0) but 0.0.2+bzr466raring1 is to be installed
    E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

    I have encountered the exact same thing on one of my Nvidia machines. It is really very tricky. That libmirserver-dev has certain headers that are required. After I nstalled the ppa and then used synaptic I forgot to *include* that file and now I have the same errors as you on one machine.

    I'll brb.
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