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    Odd suspend issue

    i am using a Asus M4A78LT-M which is powered by a Cooler Master GX 430w PSU

    it likes to come out of suspend by it self a lot i traced a the wireless mouse to waking it up when it is moved, well i unpluged it and turned the other wireless mouse off, leaving only 1 usb wired keyboard plugged in, i put it in suspend and left the room, and this is the weired part, when i came back and tured the ceiling light on, it magically waked up from suspend, this is the second time i noticed it did that

    How on earth does turning a light on wake a computer from suspend? it is not like i installed a light sensor to this system

    i do have wake on lan
    in the BIOS have these enabled:

    Code:
    Power on From S5 By PME# [Disabled]
    Enables or disables PME wake from sleep states. Configuration options: [Disabled] [Enabled]
    
    Power on From S5 By Ring [Disabled]
    Enables or disables ring to generate a wake event. Configuration options: [Disabled][Enabled]
    edit: now it happened when picking an empty bag up in the room
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    That really is very odd.

    What devices are enabled as wakeup devices?
    Code:
    cat /proc/acpi/wakeup
    You can use "lspci" to give you some info about the devices that are listed in the "Sysfs node" column.

    You can also trouble-shoot by disabling some of those enabled devices by:
    Code:
    echo DEV | sudo tee /proc/acpi/wakeup
    ...where DEV is the Device name (the echo command will act like a toggle).

    Maybe movement is triggering one of the wakeup devices ???

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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    i disabled wake on lan and it still booted up at seemingly random
    and i was unable to make it boot with all usb devices unplugged (printer, wireless mouse, and keyboard)
    from lsusb, i assume supertop is the internal card reader
    Code:
    Bus 002 Device 002: ID 14cd:8168 Super Top 
    Bus 003 Device 004: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
    Bus 003 Device 005: ID 1c4f:0002 SiGma Micro Keyboard TRACER Gamma Ivory
    Code:
    susan@desktop:~$ cat /proc/acpi/wakeup
    Device    S-state      Status   Sysfs node
    PCE2      S4    *disabled  pci:0000:00:02.0
    PCE3      S4    *disabled
    PCE4      S4    *disabled
    PCE5      S4    *disabled
    PCE6      S4    *disabled
    PCE7      S4    *disabled
    PCE9      S4    *disabled
    PCEA      S4    *disabled
    PCEB      S4    *disabled
    PCEC      S4    *disabled
    SBAZ      S4    *disabled  pci:0000:00:14.2
    UAR1      S4    *disabled  pnp:00:08
    P0PC      S4    *disabled  pci:0000:00:14.4
    UHC1      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:12.0
    UHC2      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:12.1
    UHC3      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:12.2
    USB4      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:13.0
    UHC5      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:13.1
    UHC6      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:13.2
    UHC7      S4    *enabled   pci:0000:00:14.5
    susan@desktop:~$ lspci -vv
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8388
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0
        Capabilities: <access denied>
    
    00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
        Memory behind bridge: fd000000-feafffff
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f0000000-00000000fbffffff
        Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
        BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA- VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
            PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport
        Kernel modules: shpchp
    
    00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 22
        Region 0: I/O ports at c000 [size=8]
        Region 1: I/O ports at b000 [size=4]
        Region 2: I/O ports at a000 [size=8]
        Region 3: I/O ports at 9000 [size=4]
        Region 4: I/O ports at 8000 [size=16]
        Region 5: Memory at fcfffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ahci
    
    00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
        Region 0: Memory at fcffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
    
    00:12.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
        Region 0: Memory at fcffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
    
    00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 17
        Region 0: Memory at fcfff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
    
    00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
        Region 0: Memory at fcffc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
    
    00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
        Region 0: Memory at fcffb000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
    
    00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 19
        Region 0: Memory at fcfff400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
    
    00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3c)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. M4A785TD Motherboard
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort+ <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel modules: sp5100_tco, i2c-piix4
    
    00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
        Region 0: I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
        Region 1: I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
        Region 2: I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
        Region 3: I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
        Region 4: I/O ports at ff00 [size=16]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: pata_acpi
        Kernel modules: pata_atiixp
    
    00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. M4A785TD Motherboard
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
        Region 0: Memory at fcff4000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
        Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
    
    00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0
    
    00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=64
        I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff
        Memory behind bridge: feb00000-febfffff
        Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
        BridgeCtl: Parity+ SERR+ NoISA+ VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
            PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    
    00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8389
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 18
        Region 0: Memory at fcffa000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
    
    00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Capabilities: <access denied>
    
    00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    
    00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Kernel modules: amd64_edac_mod
    
    00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: k10temp
        Kernel modules: k10temp
    
    00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control
        Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0000
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
        Region 0: Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Region 1: Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        Region 3: Memory at fa000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Region 5: I/O ports at dc00 [size=128]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at fea80000 [disabled] [size=512K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: nvidia
        Kernel modules: nvidia_current, nouveau, nvidiafb
    
    01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
        Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0000
        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
        Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 19
        Region 0: Memory at fea7c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
        Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
    
    02:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8169 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 64 (8000ns min, 16000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
        Region 0: I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
        Region 1: Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
        Expansion ROM at febc0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
        Kernel driver in use: r8169
        Kernel modules: r8169
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    Quote Originally Posted by pqwoerituytrueiwoq View Post
    i am using a Asus M4A78LT-M which is powered by a Cooler Master GX 430w PSU

    it likes to come out of suspend by it self a lot i traced a the wireless mouse to waking it up when it is moved, well i unpluged it and turned the other wireless mouse off, leaving only 1 usb wired keyboard plugged in, i put it in suspend and left the room, and this is the weired part, when i came back and tured the ceiling light on, it magically waked up from suspend, this is the second time i noticed it did that

    How on earth does turning a light on wake a computer from suspend?
    My guess would be that flipping the switch is causing radio interference that's causing a wakeup.

    edit: now it happened when picking an empty bag up in the room
    This, on the other hand, is just weird...

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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    Quote Originally Posted by jwbrase View Post
    My guess would be that flipping the switch is causing radio interference that's causing a wakeup.
    will try it without the usb wireless mouse dongle connected
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    electrical main spike interference as well, when you turn on the light
    I had a problem with that in my old house until I got a UPS with filtering
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    Quote Originally Posted by sandyd View Post
    electrical main spike interference as well, when you turn on the light
    I had a problem with that in my old house until I got a UPS with filtering
    This is a new house was built in 2011 (or late 2010)
    a UPS is expensive
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    But a filter for the mains power isn't. You can easily build one yourself.
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    Quote Originally Posted by mörgæs View Post
    But a filter for the mains power isn't. You can easily build one yourself.
    are you refing to something that goes in the circuit breaker panel?
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    Re: Odd suspend issue (you will not believe it)

    Quote Originally Posted by pqwoerituytrueiwoq View Post
    are you refing to something that goes in the circuit breaker panel?
    looks like that new house is a huge micro-waves box interfering with magnetic fields

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