Update manager issues

[donaldt]

I thought I uploaded it as an attachment. I shall try again.

donaldt

[donaldt]

I tried once more to attach the update-magr.zip file. I'll see if it works this time.

donaldt

[schragge]

Yep, it's worked.

FYI, LP#1014888 . From the bug description on LP it looks like another aptdaemon problem. Next time when update-manager stucks, try to run this (no sudo needed, run it as a regular user)

aptdcon -d --upgrade-system

Another thing to try is starting aptdaemon directly from a terminal in debug mode and capturing its output while running update manager:

sudo aptd --debug --replace --disable-timeout

Then start update-manager and watch the messages in terminal window running aptd, specifically, those that are being shown there after pressing Install Updates button in update-manager.

A somewhat related question: aptdaemon is a python app. There's a possibility that some another python application interferes with it. Could you please post the output of the following:

dpkg -l|grep -o '^i.. *python[^ ]*'

This will show all python modules installed on your system.

[donaldt]

I found 11 updates available in update manager. Setting that aside, I tried the commands you suggested above. Update Manager stalls 1/2 way through, just as before. I was unable to shut it down from terminal, which was still accessible, but the commands did nothing.

I needed to re-boot to kill update manager, so I did that and when I re-started all of the original 11 updates were still available.

I tried your other commands and nothing happened. Here is the output of :
Code: dpkg -l|grep -o '^i.. *python[^ ]*

donald@donald-Aspire-3810T:~$ dpkg -l|grep -o '^i.. *python[^ ]*'
ii python
ii python-appindicator
ii python-apport
ii python-apt
ii python-apt-common
ii python-apt-dbg
ii python-apt-doc
ii python-aptdaemon
ii python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets
ii python-aptdaemon.pkcompat
ii python-brlapi
ii python-cairo
ii python-central
ii python-chardet
ii python-compizconfig
ii python-configglue
ii python-crypto
ii python-cups
ii python-cupshelpers
ii python-dateutil
ii python-dbg
ii python-dbus
ii python-dbus-dev
ii python-debian
ii python-debtagshw
ii python-defer
ii python-dirspec
ii python-egenix-mxdatetime
ii python-egenix-mxtools
ii python-gconf
ii python-gdata
ii python-gdbm
ii python-germinate
ii python-gi
ii python-gi-cairo
ii python-glade2
ii python-gnomekeyring
ii python-gnupginterface
ii python-gobject
ii python-gobject-2
ii python-gst0.10
ii python-gtk2
ii python-httplib2
ii python-ibus
ii python-imaging
ii python-keyring
ii python-launchpadlib
ii python-lazr.restfulclient
ii python-lazr.uri
ii python-libproxy
ii python-libxml2
ii python-louis
ii python-mako
ii python-markupsafe
ii python-minimal
ii python-notify
ii python-oauth
ii python-openssl
ii python-packagekit
ii python-pam
ii python-pexpect
ii python-piston-mini-client
ii python-pkg-resources
ii python-problem-report
ii python-protobuf
ii python-pyatspi2
ii python-pycurl
ii python-pyinotify
ii python-qt4
ii python-qt4-dbus
ii python-renderpm
ii python-reportlab
ii python-reportlab-accel
ii python-serial
ii python-simplejson
ii python-sip
ii python-smbc
ii python-software-properties
ii python-speechd
ii python-support
ii python-twisted-bin
ii python-twisted-core
ii python-twisted-names
ii python-twisted-web
ii python-ubuntu-sso-client
ii python-ubuntuone-client
ii python-ubuntuone-control-panel
ii python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol
ii python-uno
ii python-virtkey
ii python-vte
ii python-wadllib
ii python-xapian
ii python-xdg
ii python-xkit
ii python-zeitgeist
ii python-zope.interface
ii python2.7
ii python2.7-dbg
ii python2.7-minimal
ii python3
ii python3-apt
ii python3-minimal
ii python3.2

[donaldt]

donald@donald-Aspire-3810T:~$ aptdcon -d --upgrade-system
The following packages will be upgraded (11):
apt-doc=0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.9 apt-transport-https=0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.9
apt-utils=0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.9 apt=0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.9
libapt-inst1.4=0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.9 libapt-pkg4.12=0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.9
thunderbird-globalmenu=17.0.4+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
thunderbird-gnome-support=17.0.4+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
thunderbird-locale-en-us=1:17.0.4+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
thunderbird-locale-en=1:17.0.4+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
thunderbird=17.0.4+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
The following package has been kept back (1):
libpurple0=1:2.10.3-1~getdeb1
After this operation, 13.3 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?y
[\] 0% Waiting

[donaldt]

More readouts as requested. I now have a "crash report" on my screen. Update Manager will not launch, it is stuck right after hitting "install updates". I will cancel it out to save the updates for further experimentation.

Are we learning anything?

donaldt


donald@donald-Aspire-3810T:~$ sudo killall update-manager
[sudo] password for donald:
donald@donald-Aspire-3810T:~$ sudo aptd --debug --replace --disable-timeout
16:34:43 AptDaemon [INFO]: Initializing daemon
16:34:43 AptDaemon [WARNING]: Replacing already running daemon
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/sbin/aptd", line 28, in <module>
aptdaemon.core.main()
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/core.py", line 2203, in main
daemon = AptDaemon(options, bus=bus)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/core.py", line 1397, in __init__
do_not_queue=True)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/service.py", line 142, in __new__
raise NameExistsException(name)
dbus.exceptions.NameExistsException: Bus name already exists: org.debian.apt
donald@donald-Aspire-3810T:~$

[Bashing-om]

Pardon me if I am interrupting, on the installed python modules the output on my system has some differences. I am running 12.04.1 on AMD64, standard install fully updated - and most significant is I do not have the latter python3 versions installed. This for comparison IRT python module conflicts. (donaldt is running 32 bit)

[donaldt]

Bashing-om,

We may be comparing apples and oranges, but thanks for the suggestion. Any help at all is appreciated.

donaldt

[schragge]

Thank you, Bashing-om, your input is very welcome here.
Well, python3 is certainly not required to run your system as default python on precise is 2.7. python3-apt is even more suspicious. I don't run Ubuntu myself, but on my system (Debian wheezy) the only two packages that require it, wajig and germinate, are certainly not part of the standard install. Looks like you have wajig installed. Don't get me wrong, wajig is a very nice tool, I used it myself in the past when apt-get and aptitude were not so poweful as they are now, but are you really using it? Anyway, for the sake of clarity, let's try removing the python3 stuff. You can reinstall it later if it's not guilty.

sudo apt-get remove wajig ^python3

[donaldt]

Up and after the update manager again...

This morning I removed the python 3 files. My update manager had by then accumulated more updates, 15 to be exact. After the removal I tried an update and it still stalled out. Update Manager always goes through a list of names and after charles coulsen at canonical it says "end". Today I was able to kill update manager with "killall" in terminal.

After killing the application, if I try update manager again, it will not check the updates or even start updating the applications. It just stops. I don't know if this is important, but want to provide any data that might help.

Standing by for more wisdom from online...

Thanks for the help!

donaldt