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    Cool Realtek rtl8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    (I'm posting in a Ubuntu forum because A) Before I switched to Mint, my Ubuntu 10.12 had the same problem. B) The systems are so similar -- one derived from the other -- that the solution for one should work for the other. C) Ubuntu forums are the only ones on which I've found usable advice. You guys have the better support, and I believe the system diff will not affect anything. D) I plan to switch back to Ubuntu when and if they lose Unity Desktop).

    Hello. I'm a bit new at Linux, and after installing Mint 14 on my laptop, I am unable to use the wireless. I have gone through every forum I could find; each of their answers revealed a problem I had not noticed, and helped me to correct it: Network Manager had kept my WiFi Disabled, the correct module (rtl8187se) was not present (similarly-named and useless ones took its place), and ndiswrapper was faulty, as were its updates and patches. And so here I am. My problem at the moment is my card's inability to detect wifi networks. All the drivers seem to be in working order, the card functions in Windows 7 (which I dual-boot), and currently picks up three high-strength networks nearby. In Linux, the card is recognized, Wifi is "On", Airplane mode "Off", but recieves nothing. I've tried to be as thourough as possible, listing everything that might be important. Anything you guys could do would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! (The Fn-F8 key combo is marked on my keyboard, but does nothing, even in Windows).

    Toshiba Sattelite L455D-S5976 laptop
    AMD64
    Linux Mint 14 Nadia with Cinnamon
    Card: Realtek RTL8187se
    Network Manager: WICD Network Manager, latest version. (Replaced original Network Manager)
    Drivers: Windows XP 64-bit, downloaded from Realtek, operated via ndiswrapper 1.57; ndis originally proved faulty, attepted to follow repair instructions, all seems well (no errors on install of drivers/ compilation of ndis).

    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ modprobe rtl8187se
    FATAL: Module rtl8187se not found.
    (I assume this module is no longer necessary).

    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ lspci
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 9602
    00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
    00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
    00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
    00:12.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
    00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
    00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
    00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
    00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
    00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
    00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
    00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
    00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
    00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
    00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Processor HyperTransport Configuration (rev 40)
    00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Processor Address Map
    00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Processor DRAM Controller
    00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Processor Miscellaneous Control
    00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Processor Link Control
    01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780MC [Mobility Radeon HD 3100 Graphics]
    0e:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ lsusb
    Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0baf:0303 U.S. Robotics 
    Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
    Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ lspci -nn | grep Realtek
    0e:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8199] (rev 22)
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ ifconfig
    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
              inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
    
    ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
              inet addr:72.251.108.60  P-t-P:64.58.38.178  Mask:255.255.255.255
              UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 
              RX bytes:394 (394.0 B)  TX bytes:250 (250.0 B)
    
    wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr e8:39:df:3d:3c:f7  
              UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
              Interrupt:18 Memory:f0300000-f0304000
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ iwconfig
    ppp0      no wireless extensions.
    
    lo        no wireless extensions.
    
    wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any  
              Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
              Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3  
              RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
              Power Management:off
              Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
              Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
              Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ lsmod
    Module                  Size  Used by
    ppp_deflate            12950  1 
    zlib_deflate           26914  1 ppp_deflate
    bsd_comp               12921  0 
    ppp_async              17413  1 
    crc_ccitt              12667  1 ppp_async
    cdc_acm                26935  3 
    nls_utf8               12557  1 
    udf                    89482  1 
    crc_itu_t              12707  1 udf
    dm_crypt               23011  1 
    ip6t_REJECT            12574  1 
    xt_hl                  12521  6 
    ip6t_rt                12558  3 
    nf_conntrack_ipv6      14054  7 
    nf_defrag_ipv6         13158  1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
    ipt_REJECT             12541  1 
    xt_LOG                 17349  10 
    xt_limit               12711  13 
    xt_tcpudp              12603  18 
    xt_addrtype            12635  4 
    xt_state               12578  14 
    joydev                 17457  0 
    ip6table_filter        12815  1 
    ip6_tables             27207  2 ip6t_rt,ip6table_filter
    snd_hda_codec_realtek    77876  1 
    nf_conntrack_netbios_ns    12665  0 
    nf_conntrack_broadcast    12589  1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns
    nf_nat_ftp             12649  0 
    nf_nat                 25254  1 nf_nat_ftp
    nf_conntrack_ipv4      14480  9 nf_nat
    nf_defrag_ipv4         12729  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
    nf_conntrack_ftp       13359  1 nf_nat_ftp
    nf_conntrack           82633  8 nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_state,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_nat_ftp,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_ftp
    iptable_filter         12810  1 
    ip_tables              26995  1 iptable_filter
    x_tables               29711  13 ip6t_REJECT,xt_hl,ip6t_rt,ipt_REJECT,xt_LOG,xt_limit,xt_tcpudp,xt_addrtype,xt_state,ip6table_filter,ip6_tables,iptable_filter,ip_tables
    snd_hda_intel          33491  3 
    snd_hda_codec         134212  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
    snd_hwdep              13602  1 snd_hda_codec
    snd_pcm                96580  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
    snd_seq_midi           13324  0 
    snd_rawmidi            30512  1 snd_seq_midi
    snd_seq_midi_event     14899  1 snd_seq_midi
    snd_seq                61521  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
    microcode              22803  0 
    snd_timer              29425  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
    snd_seq_device         14497  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
    snd                    78734  15 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
    psmouse                95552  0 
    soundcore              15047  1 snd
    sp5100_tco             13697  0 
    snd_page_alloc         18484  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
    serio_raw              13215  0 
    k10temp                13126  0 
    i2c_piix4              13167  0 
    ndiswrapper           283279  0 
    toshiba_acpi           18726  0 
    shpchp                 37108  0 
    sparse_keymap          13890  1 toshiba_acpi
    wmi                    19070  1 toshiba_acpi
    rfcomm                 46619  0 
    parport_pc             32688  0 
    bnep                   18140  2 
    ppdev                  17073  0 
    bluetooth             209199  10 rfcomm,bnep
    mac_hid                13205  0 
    lp                     17759  0 
    parport                46345  3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
    radeon                895653  3 
    ttm                    83595  1 radeon
    drm_kms_helper         46784  1 radeon
    pata_atiixp            13204  0 
    drm                   275528  5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
    i2c_algo_bit           13413  1 radeon
    video                  19335  0
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ sudo lshw -C network
    [sudo] password for computer: 
      *-network               
           description: Wireless interface
           product: RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller
           vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
           physical id: 0
           bus info: pci@0000:0e:00.0
           logical name: wlan0
           version: 22
           serial: e8:39:df:3d:3c:f7
           width: 32 bits
           clock: 33MHz
           capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
           configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ndiswrapper+net8187se driverversion=1.58rc1+Realtek Semiconductor Co latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11g
           resources: irq:18 ioport:a000(size=256) memory:f0300000-f0303fff
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ iwlist scan
    ppp0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
    
    lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
    
    wlan0     No scan results
    
    computer@computer ~ $ iwlist wlan0 scan
    wlan0     No scan results
    
    computer@computer ~ $ uname -mr
    3.5.0-17-generic x86_64
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
    Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
    utility, e.g. service networking restart
    Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
    Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
    e.g. stop networking ; start networking. The restart(8) utility is also available.
    networking stop/waiting
    networking start/running
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ sudo service wicd restart
    [sudo] password for computer: 
     * Restarting Network connection manager wicd                    [ OK ]
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ dhcpcd wlan0
    The program 'dhcpcd' can be found in the following packages:
     * dhcpcd
     * dhcpcd5
    Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
    Last edited by CityNight; December 26th, 2012 at 02:53 AM.

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    Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    I used to have Ubuntu, and can find no difference besides desktop.
    A new bit of text to chew on. The server query at the bottom confused me until I realized my dialup is plugged in. :) I'm also concerned about the lack of results from "* V. querying DHCP..." Other people's always show something or other...

    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ mintwifi
    -------------------------
    * I. scanning WIFI PCI devices...
      -- Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
          ==> PCI ID = 10ec:8199 (rev 22)
    -------------------------
    * II. querying ndiswrapper...
    net8187se : driver installed
        device (10EC:8199) present (alternate driver: r8187se)
    -------------------------
    * III. querying iwconfig...
    ppp0      no wireless extensions.
    
    lo        no wireless extensions.
    
    wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any  
              Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
              Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3  
              RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
              Power Management:off
              Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
              Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
              Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
    
    -------------------------
    * IV. querying ifconfig...
    lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
              inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
              inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
              UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
              RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
              RX bytes:200 (200.0 B)  TX bytes:200 (200.0 B)
    
    ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
              inet addr:72.251.108.110  P-t-P:64.58.38.178  Mask:255.255.255.255
              UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:19038 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:22716 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 
              RX bytes:10299286 (10.2 MB)  TX bytes:3990380 (3.9 MB)
    
    wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr e8:39:df:3d:3c:f7  
              UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
              RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
              TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
              RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
              Interrupt:18 Memory:f0300000-f0304000 
    
    -------------------------
    * V. querying DHCP...
    -------------------------
    * VI. querying nslookup google.com...
    Server:        64.136.173.5
    Address:    64.136.173.5#53
    
    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name:    google.com
    Address: 173.194.75.139
    Name:    google.com
    Address: 173.194.75.100
    Name:    google.com
    Address: 173.194.75.138
    Name:    google.com
    Address: 173.194.75.113
    Name:    google.com
    Address: 173.194.75.101
    Name:    google.com
    Address: 173.194.75.102
    I have also blacklisted the following modules (the first two to keep them from interfering with the new drivers, the last four on an explanation from a Mint user that, against all logic, blacklisting them cleared up his problem):

    /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (varies with system)

    Code:
    #This allegedly interferes with Realtek windows drivers.
    blacklist rtl8187
    blacklist r8187se
    blacklist bcm43xx
    blacklist b43
    blacklist b43legacy
    blacklist ssb
    I just discovered this as well:
    Code:
    computer@computer ~ $ sudo modprobe net8187se
    [sudo] password for computer: 
    FATAL: Module net8187se not found.
    Should I be worried, or is the driver not implemented by ndiswrapper as a module? Compare to:

    Code:
    * II. querying ndiswrapper...
    net8187se : driver installed
        device (10EC:8199) present (alternate driver: r8187se)
    under mintwifi
    Last edited by CityNight; December 26th, 2012 at 12:46 AM.

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    Lightbulb Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    A note on WCID's behavior (my reference to "Airplane Mode" in my first post was from the original, default Network Manager): The "Switch Off WiFi" button is clickable, but does not change when clicked. I cannot find any evidence that it is functional. Secondly, the "Refresh" button is seemingly functional, and the program gives every indication of actively searching for a network, even though none appear where there should be several. I can't shake the feeling that the drivers are wrong, or the configuration is wrong. To repeat myself, I'm a newbie, so I have no way but you folks to confirm my hunch, but I don't think it's the card or the manager, but what's inbetween. Miss? I only wish I'd posted all this before Christmas...

    Another note, before anyone asks me to download some monstrous patch: most days my connection is 56kbits/s dialup. Can only get WiFi in Windows, at the public library.

    Thank you all in advance. Merry Christmas, and a happy New Year!
    Last edited by CityNight; December 26th, 2012 at 02:18 AM.

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    Realtek 8187se cant find network Mint 14 AMD64

    im using ubuntu 10.04 on my asus leptap. and i have a airties modem. but unfortunately i can not access to internet via my wireless modem. i think there is a problem about dhcp. because when dhcp auto mode i cant connect to my modem neither. although when i sellect dhcp manuel and give my leptop a spesific ip it connects to modem. i can adjust modem settings with leptap but there is still no internet connection. in shortly i connect my modem but not internet. what should i do?

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    Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    Major bummer! RealTek doesn't list a linux driver for the 8187SE chip, only a Windows driver. Try emailing RealTek and see if another package will support your adapter? Maybe go to your blacklist file and remove the 8187SE module, leaving the others? Reboot and see what happens? If you can't convince NDISwrapper to work, I'm not sure what else to try except to buy an adapter known to work. I've had very good luck with the Edimax ew-7811Un using Realtek's driver. It's pretty tiny and unobtrusive. The native driver in Ubuntu finds the device but is unreliable.

    http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811.../dp/B005CLMJLU

    Edit: I doubt the native driver has any chance of success while NDISwrapper is installed so maybe remove NDISwrapper and its associated windows stuff before removing rtl8187se from the blacklist? That Realtek doesn't offer a linux driver for that chipset doesn't bode well IMO unless another rtl8187 driver will drive that device.
    Last edited by kurt18947; December 26th, 2012 at 03:49 PM.

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    Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    That's the thing: the current drivers, from what I have read, are incorrect. There are three altogether: rtl8187, r8187se, and rtl8187se. The last one is not present, and apparently the other two do not run. The last is one of those things that you hear about but never find a link to, and is the correct one. If I could only find where to download it, I would uninstall ndis, which I've heard bad things about. I have emailed Realtek, and wait on a response. Would you happen to know where I could find that driver?

    P.S. As to buying a new adapter, money is an issue. If I had a better income, I would've saved up for a Linux laptop long ago. So much less trouble.

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    Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    Quote Originally Posted by CityNight View Post
    That's the thing: the current drivers, from what I have read, are incorrect. There are three altogether: rtl8187, r8187se, and rtl8187se. The last one is not present, and apparently the other two do not run. The last is one of those things that you hear about but never find a link to, and is the correct one. If I could only find where to download it, I would uninstall ndis, which I've heard bad things about. I have emailed Realtek, and wait on a response. Would you happen to know where I could find that driver?

    P.S. As to buying a new adapter, money is an issue. If I had a better income, I would've saved up for a Linux laptop long ago. So much less trouble.
    Yes, I checked RealTek's site for that chip. The only thing I saw was for Windows. It's possible that another chip's driver will drive the 8187SE. For instance, I installed the RealTek driver for the Edimax 8188CUs device and blacklisted the native rtl modules. It appears out that the module r8712u for the Edimax 8188CUs device will also drive the Realtek 8192SU device (Dlink DWA-131). It's possible that another Realtek 8187xx driver will work with your 8187SE device but I have no idea if or which one. It will be interesting to hear what Realtek has to say. I've followed a couple threads about devices that require NDISwrapper. I gather that the current version has 'issues', it's necessary to build from source. But I'm certainly no expert on NDISwrapper related things.

    I appreciate what you're saying about $$. I don't know where you are but Amazon in the U.S. has the Edimax ew-7811Un for $9.99 with free shipping.
    Last edited by kurt18947; December 27th, 2012 at 02:14 PM.

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    Post Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    Hi guys,
    Possible solution to your RTL8187se issue here:

    http://askubuntu.com/questions/21408...ct-to-wireless

    Start reading at the second post titled "Overview"

    Hope that helps you out!

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    Smile Re: Realtek 8187se can't find network. Mint 14. AMD64.

    Hey, guys. The driver problem no longer affects me, as I received both a high-powered long-distance WiFi adapter and a new laptop for Christmas. Also, it seems that this problem has come to the attention of many other people, so fixing up the old one is now only a matter of searching. Thanks for all your help... life is good. Oh, and I never did get a response from Realtek...
    Last edited by CityNight; February 14th, 2013 at 10:12 PM.

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