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    Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    I have to say I have not had a very good experience with Ubuntu. Not only the problem with having to learn a whole new process. Also, having to deal with malware when there is no visible Anti virus or anti malware that we can use to keep out the little critters. Clam TK is useless. I have had to install several times now and my patience is wearing thin! I am going to try one last time and start with a clean Install.
    Would any members of the Ubuntu community like to suggest how to keep a cleanish computer please fire away!

    (Whist I am doing a clean install that is!)

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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    I don't think I've ever had a viral infection on my linux boxes, ClamAV and the attendant modules that go with it have always done the job superbly, quietly, and without my interference or direction.

    I'd be interested to hear more about this viral infection please.

    For a more windows like experience try another flavor such as Kubuntu or Xubuntu
    Last edited by Grinage; February 1st, 2013 at 05:06 AM. Reason: additional info

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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinage View Post
    I don't think I've ever had a viral infection on my linux boxes, ClamAV and the attendant modules that go with it have always done the job superbly, quietly, and without my interference or direction.

    I'd be interested to hear more about this viral infection please.

    For a more windows like experience try another flavor such as Kubuntu or Xubuntu
    @ Grinage

    I can here the computer revving up to full blast and the computer becomes unusable.

    The point is from my point of view is that Ubuntu can never be a viable option for the masses until there are suitable AV and malware protection which would cost loads on this format because no-one wants to pay for it!

    But that's another story I don't want to get into...

    @ lisati

    Being a noob! I can only guess what you actually mean... I have in good faith installed what I deem fit. Does that mean I'm stupid?

    Chrome 4 Viri so clam says Quarantined!
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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarka Dal View Post
    The point is from my point of view...
    Which appears to be coming from a Windows' or Mac world.

    A Linux machine can be cracked into... but it takes a very concentrated effort, such as social cracking, weak pass words, etc.

    Linux is different from Windows or Mac, in that the system is hardened, whether it be the SELinux layer in Fedora or root disabled in Ubuntu. ClamAV on Linux, is to scan for threats to Windows machines - so as, you do not pass on malware to a friend using Windows, such as through an email.

    First and foremost, a strong pass word in Linux is key.

    And I would offer that there are several honey pot projects out there - people placing a Linux machine on the web with the challenge to crack it. Difficult to do, and a learning process to further harden Linux.

    You would not do this with a Windows or Mac machine - in fact, most come loaded with third party protection programs to activate before you get on the web

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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    freshclam is for ensuring you always have up to date virus definitions without you having to do it manually, clamAV can run in Daemon mode if you want it to run all the time.

    Linux in general is typically supremely secure, millions or probably billions of people use some form of linux every day and the numbers continue to grow, linux is everywhere from Microsoft's own Servers to Android Phones, more and more users are leaving windows behind because of it's massive security problems. Usually the selling point on two identical machines one with a linux OS and one with a MS OS is the security of the system and correctly configured the near impossibility of infection.

    If you're getting a quarantine message please post the message. If it's hardware it could be ACPI or powersave related, sometimes these functions are not handled correctly.

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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    Quote Originally Posted by BBQdave View Post
    Which appears to be coming from a Windows' or Mac world.

    A Linux machine can be cracked into... but it takes a very concentrated effort, such as social cracking, weak pass words, etc.

    Linux is different from Windows or Mac, in that the system is hardened, whether it be the SELinux layer in Fedora or root disabled in Ubuntu. ClamAV on Linux, is to scan for threats to Windows machines - so as, you do not pass on malware to a friend using Windows, such as through an email.



    And I would offer that there are several honey pot projects out there - people placing a Linux machine on the web with the challenge to crack it. Difficult to do, and a learning process to further harden Linux.

    You would not do this with a Windows or Mac machine - in fact, most come loaded with third party protection programs to activate before you get on the web
    I am not making a gripe even though it may look like that! I am just observing the problem I have and trying to find a way to fix it if possible but, it looks unlikely!
    BTW, I always use a strong password...
    First and foremost, a strong pass word in Linux is key.
    And I'm sorry if I am looking at it from a windows view...Haha! joke...
    No serious I am sorry!

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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    Computer security is a process, which begins with what you allow on your computer and what you run.

    Some information about antivirus software for Ubuntu can be found here:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus
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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    Interesting links, lisati, I'd still like to know more about Tarka Dal's virus situation. I've seen people create virus like problems on their box but assuming ClamAV and the other associated components that help secure your system are installed, configured, and working, I really want to know more about the specifics of the infection.

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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    I haven't encountered a need for anti-virus on my Ubuntu installations in the 5 years I've been using Ubuntu. I do, however, use it on my email server out of courtesy to the Windows users I interect with.
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    Re: Somebody's not playing fair! Virus...

    There is also a problem with cross-platforms. If you have a virus in Ubuntu it could multiply fast on Windows machines and cause havoc on Linux and vice versa! There is no cross-platform AV.
    So, is there "No" better AV than ClamTK?
    Last edited by Tarka Dal; February 1st, 2013 at 05:55 AM.

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