Codecs, VLC and GIMP
Codecs, VLC and GIMP
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Nothing. Why fill somebody's computer up with bloatware they probably wont use. Ive gone through this whole thread and found only a couple packages that I use. The rest would be deleted upon install, just like 90% of the other programs that come with a fresh install.
Unless of course you guys want to go the Windows way...last time I bought a Windows computer I got something like 10 free photo manipulation apps, half a dozen productivity programs for schedule management and note taking etc, and a whole range of other pointless junk, all of which was completely useless to me. So yeah, we could include every browser known to man in the DVD, have six different paint programs, 10 media players, 27 different ways to manage packages, 412 different terminal emulation options, and a bunch of obscure terminal programs that 99.99% of the world doesnt know what to do with...or we could give people the basics they need and make it easy for them to install programs which suit their needs.
Bodhi Linux
http://www.bodhilinux.com/
there are already releases that have about anything already installed. Super Os, Ultimate edition etc.
As i recall Zorin has chrome as the default browser.
recently i had to install windows on a computer. with every program i installed came a banshee scream at all the useless bloatware it wanted to install. Just one example, if i had installed all the tool bars the software wanted to the browser window would have ceased to exist.
One of the beauties of Ubuntu and its derivatives is i can install what i use and dump what i dont.
The only dumb question is the one not asked.
In service to the Dream
My experience with the Ubuntu mini iso was I installed the system then was left with a command line. Then I apt-got xfce and other stuff I wanted. That still has to fetch all the stuff from the online repos. What I'm suggesting is that we are given a graphical environment with stuff that people expect from a modern operating system like a web browser and office suite and then let them chose additional stuff that is included on the disc but not installed without the users wish. One of the reasons why I like the idea of Ubuntu is that it is a very quick install and all my hardware works out of the box. That being said I hate the fact that they assume I want a twitter client,email,cloud based storage, and a bunch of other stuff by default. Ubuntu tries to please everybody all the time and and you can't really do that. I think that the goal should be to provide in the default install what can reasonably be expected to be there. For example I expect a car to have breaks but I don't necessarily think it should include ass warmers by default. But if i ask and pay a premium I can have the ass warmers you just have to special order it. But i don't expect to have to build the car from the ground up just to be able to have a car do I? That's all I'm suggesting for Ubuntu. Provide sane defaults and then provide options for the rest. It seems like in linux there really isn't any middle ground. You are either forced to remove stuff that you don't want post install or start from absolutely nothing and add everything.
Whoever came up with the phrase "There is no such thing as a stupid question" obviously never had the internet.
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