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    Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop about 4 weeks ago. Ever since then I've had to reinstall it 5 times. The first time Unity crashed and I couldn't even get to a terminal...just the an non-right-clickable arrow and the background. Then it crashed when I had the OpenGL Cairo dock and didn't recover. Then I downloaded wine and W.o.W and it did the black screen of death thing. Lastly it did the black screen of death and all I did was move from flgrx (not sure if that's the proper name) to the proprietary drivers for AMD/ATI graphics. So what am I doing wrong? other than installing proprietary drivers I didn't do anything really crazy do my machine...downloaded GCC, G++, emacs, some monitoring tools, apache2, mysql, your general lamp stuff, and openssh and ssl. Can someone please help out?

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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    Hi!, psyllex,

    Here is my standard response to queries like yours that ask for help, but give no essential info:
    Please Post details of what you actually experience when you try to boot, and what you have tried to solve things;

    EG,. how far does it get?,
    what do you see?
    What response you get to keystrokes? - such as 'Crtl+Alt+F1', 'Crtl+Alt+Del', or 'Shift'[ the later during boot sequence].

    If you get a grub menu: Have you tried:
    Booting to recovery?
    Editing the grubmenu script?, eg to put in 'nomodeset'

    Or tried Booting from a LiveCD/USB?

    Please also Post details of your setup: computer make and model, CPU, integrated Graphics?, GPU,video card, memory, and how Ubuntu/Lubuntu is installed, ie with 'wubi' or direct, and if dual with Windows.[ If the later, does it work??]

    Also please Post the output of the following, if you can get to a terminal [ or tty].
    Code:
    uname -ar
    lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 VGA
    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
    Copy/Paste the command and output to a 'New Reply' edit box. highlight it and press the '#' icon in the toolbar at the top of the edit box.
    Chao, bogan.
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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Hi!, psyllex,

    Here is my standard response to queries like yours that ask for help, but give no essential info:Chao, bogan.
    I've attempted about everything I could thing of analogous to ctrl+alt+delete. And as I stated what I had to do was reinstall, it isn't a corrupted installation device because I re-downloaded the .iso each time I reinstalled just to be sure. I've seen other posts about issues with proprietary graphics drivers. I've attempted a few and I think installing the ATI drivers actually may have caused a crash one of the times. The other times I have no idea what happened. I could hear my computer responding to keystrokes or other commands I could try from just the desktop like opening the terminal but I wasn't typing correctly (since I couldn't see) so I just gave up and reinstalled. I will get the results of that command when I get home to my machine.

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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    alright response from your command:

    Code:
    Linux psy-HP 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    
    00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Mobility Radeon HD 6620G] [1002:9641]
    	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:358b]
    	Kernel driver in use: radeon
    	Kernel modules: radeon
    00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Mobility Radeon HD 6620G] [1002:9641]
    	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:358b]
    	Kernel driver in use: radeon
    	Kernel modules: radeon
    psy@psy-HP:~$ /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
    OpenGL vendor string:   X.Org
    OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD SUMO
    OpenGL version string:  2.1 Mesa 9.0
    
    Not software rendered:    yes
    Not blacklisted:          yes
    GLX fbconfig:             yes
    GLX texture from pixmap:  yes
    GL npot or rect textures: yes
    GL vertex program:        yes
    GL fragment program:      yes
    GL vertex buffer object:  yes
    GL framebuffer object:    yes
    GL version is 1.4+:       yes
    
    Unity 3D supported:       yes
    For the time being I installed GNOME. That has solved the issue (I believe and hope) for the time being until I can get it sorted out. It may be an issue with my computer though...the bios got wiped out it looks; or at least that is what it alerted me to when I booted up one time, that HP bios has been deleted alert alert! Unfortunately I wasn't paying super close attention to it. I could go back to 12.04 L.T.S. that worked like a well oiled machine...but there was some graphical elements to 12.10 that I like. Unfortunately I don't have that much time to mess around with it. I did a :apt-get cache search on fglrx and essentially tried to install what look like my drivers (Radeon). My machine would still go black, then I would reboot and try the next one...and so on. I had it working when I installed only the fglrx drivers for awhile but then I did some tinkering with compiz and that caused it to go back to the black screen on reboot or when waking up from sleep mode.

    I've tried various solutions (which I need to write down from now on since as you said I don't give any information to go off). I'll keep searching through the forums to see if there's any solutions, keep track of them and then report them here. Unless you see something in those results that would lend me a suggestion which I would truly appreciate.

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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    HI!, psyllex,

    I do not understand why lspci shows two identical "[AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Mobility Radeon HD 6620G] " VGA adapters, both using the radeon driver; especially as they are the Mobility version, that suggests you are using a laptop, hardly likely to have two video cards.

    Whilst the output from the unity test suggests the Xorg used is from the nouveau driver.

    I would be inclined, if the current situation is not acceptable - and I am assuming that you are having to log in to a Gnome session, as Unity does not work correctly if you log in to 'ubuntu' - to try two things:

    First run:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
    sudo reboot
    Then log in to ubuntu and see if things are any different.

    Second, my limited knowledge of AMD video cards is that the GPU you have - HD6620G - does not like the fglrx driver and the 12.10 Xorg server and that the correct driver is that shown as in use - radeon - but the unity_test suggests it is not correctly installed, so try:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-radeon
    sudo reboot
    .Then run again
    Code:
    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
    and compare results with the previous output.

    If anyone reading this has more experience with AMD cards and thinks otherwise, please come in.

    Edit: It maybe that you need to do a more complex purge of the remaining elements of the fglrx driver, if you did not do so.

    Chao!, bogan.
    Last edited by bogan; January 22nd, 2013 at 11:19 AM. Reason: purge note added
    "Better Solutions may bring Worsened Problems": After Lao Tse, b. circa 405BC. a contemporary of Confucius, who died circa 600BC.
    They did things differently in those days, apparently!!

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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    HI!,Then run again
    Code:
    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
    and compare results with the previous output.

    If anyone reading this has more experience with AMD cards and thinks otherwise, please come in.

    Edit: It maybe that you need to do a more complex purge of the remaining elements of the fglrx driver, if you did not do so.

    Chao!, bogan.
    I ran the test again and here are the results:
    Code:
    OpenGL vendor string:   X.Org
    OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD SUMO
    OpenGL version string:  2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
    
    Not software rendered:    yes
    Not blacklisted:          yes
    GLX fbconfig:             yes
    GLX texture from pixmap:  yes
    GL npot or rect textures: yes
    GL vertex program:        yes
    GL fragment program:      yes
    GL vertex buffer object:  yes
    GL framebuffer object:    yes
    GL version is 1.4+:       yes
    
    Unity 3D supported:       yes
    I still have the problem that when I actually set my PC to sleep, it won't recover for wakeup. I haven't found a solution yet so if anyone has any ideas...I'm all ears. I have to have my PC running at all times, only dimming the screen. If it goes to sleep....it will need a complete reboot.

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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    Hi!, psyllex,

    I think the failure to wake correctly from Sleep is a different issue and you would be better off to Post a separate Thread, if you have not already done so.

    If the BSOD is no longer a problem, please mark this thread as 'Solved'; or do you still get one if you log-in to ubuntu??

    Chao!, bogan.
    "Better Solutions may bring Worsened Problems": After Lao Tse, b. circa 405BC. a contemporary of Confucius, who died circa 600BC.
    They did things differently in those days, apparently!!

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    Re: Crashing, Black Screen of Death, etc! Please help!

    No, I only get that when I put the screen to sleep. Or shut my laptop....which then I can see the backlight on but can't get the display to come up. So I'll start a new thread. Thanks for all the help.

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