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My answer I guess depends on what know means.
Scratch half of that list. That leaves Perl, SQL and arduino currently. By way of an excuse, I got VB from a grant years back before my OSS enlightenment.Code:if (know == dabblein){ @languages=(perl, php, autolisp, arduino, SQL, basic, visual_basic); {
Perl is my favorite. A bit quirky, but I mostly get it.
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I agree with previous posters. You will have a huge variation based on what purpose the developers are designing to.
Right now I'm doing mostly web development, which means I'm really using a stack of languages anyway. Groovy, Java, Javascript, html, Freemarker, sql for several different engines, just off the top of my head, for just the current projects. And all those languages for each project.
For UN*X scripting, you get: Perl, Bash, sed, awk, ruby. For UN*X developing, C and C++.
I could go on quite a bit, but won't. Another branch of the discussion actually took my attention, which is the bizarre languages part.
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The one that comes to mind is from back in the late '80s or maybe early '90s called DataFlow. It was a drag and drop "object oriented" language for the Mac. The icon was a toilet, and it had icons for all sorts of constructs and you connected it with pipes. When you ran the program each icon would shake as code went through it, and each pipe would shake between steps. It was buggy as heck, and it would crash but the components would continue shaking anyway, even while you rebooted your Mac. It was totally useless except you could waste a few weekends finding new and inventive ways to make it crash. It also made a pretty good drinking game because it was so slow you could read what happened, and you had a chance to breathe between drinks when your branch of code got hit multiple times.
Another one from about that time was Hypercard. It was object oriented in a bizarre natural language way, that was I suppose closer to Lisp than anything else I know. At the time 2400 baud modems were pretty high class and 9600 baud was just getting to the experimental stage. The Internet existed and we used it, but it was still only for schools so the BBS was king. My buddies and I were playing a game, I think it was TradeWars. You had to outfit star ships and take over planets, it was fun but an organizational nightmare. I wrote a robot in Hypercard to play the game. I logged in, downloaded the map and got status on all my planets and ships, then signed off. My program would maintain a certain number of troops and ships in each place, and then I would allocate the rest of my resources by looking at the map. Then I would log in and paste the hypercard-generated script into the game. I won the first game after a close battle, but after that nobody wanted to play the second time.
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Yeah, I wasn't that clear in my initial post. I'm more of just interested in what people are using and why, with no other interest. So evidently it's dependent on the person.Originally Posted by 1clue
I have noticed that the majority of the people who have posted use C.
What a completely dysfunctional language. I like it.
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I think mostly because it's one of the languages you learn in college, although they weren't teaching it yet when I went through. It was Pascal and FORTRAN. And assembly, and some languages specific to the Control Data CDC 170, ....
As well, C is the language of UNIX, most of the guts are written in C and so are many of the apps. It's also a pretty simple language with virtually no safeties, which makes it ideal for either tricky/expert code or wild obfuscation.
Come to think of it, I believe that was its only asset. I used it about a month, I think, then lost interest.What a completely dysfunctional language. I like it.
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I can't speak for anyone else, but as someone who's been through the process somewhat more recently, my formal education is Java, assembly, Matlab, LabVIEW, and VHDL. I used my own time to learn C because my university's CS department wasn't interested in teaching really useful skills.
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being fairly new to ubuntu, the only "language" i use for now is bash (not sure if bash is actually considered a language when compared to the likes of c, c++, java, etc etc)
i use it primarily for utilities to assist android users with different aspects of "rooting" and or customizing their phones
i plan on diving into c# and java in the near future
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Languages and why I learned them:
Java: learnt in a course on distributed computing, dislike the language if im honest though.
C: learnt very basic C for ic programming. pic chips and such, as such ive never made a gui in C.
Python: easy to learn, quick for scripting, fast enough for most things
VB: learned years ago in school.
C#: dabbled with dot net to try cross platform stuff for about six months, at the time mono was too bleeding edge so i got frustrated and gave up.
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Seems to me they were trying to give examples of a wide variation of languages.
FWIW I have never professionally used ANY of the languages I learned in college. I saw assembly language as useful, and Pascal was about as useful as anything at the time, but the companies I've worked for since were rooted in the real world, and as such used languages that were common to the time instead of antiques.
The one language I see bashed quite often here is Java, which actually gets used quite a bit in enterprise work that I do, and even more if you count the hundreds of languages that compile to Java byte code to run on the JVM. People seem to think of it as something that runs in a browser to mess up your life, but in most cases I think it's on the server, and performs nicely there.
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I might agree with you, but if I had been a computer science major I definitely wouldn't have learned LabVIEW or VHDL and I probably wouldn't have done much Matlab either. I only learned what I did because of the bastard offspring of CS and EE that was my focus. All the useful stuff I learned from projects.
I've never used Java for anything but homework. I don't think it's useless, it's just not part of my domain. C, assembly, VHDL, yes; Java, no.
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Back when I went, people got just a CS degree. Now, it's just one step more useful than a History degree. So you get some sort of engineer who has CS and whatever their main focus is, or CS plus a minor in something. In the scenario of an engineer going for CS courses, MatLab and LabView make all sorts of sense.
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