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    M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    Hi Everyone,

    So, I'm new to all this, both Linux AND music recording. Right now I have and M-Audio Fast Track. It's not a Fast Track Pro. Just a regular Fast Track.

    http://www.americanmusical.com/Item-...FUJo4AodnV9Ezw

    I wanted to verify just to make sure. I made this post, because I noticed that all the articles and threads similar to this are about different versions. I just have the standard.

    Anyways, right now I'm just trying to do the basic thing and have the ability to record my bass right in to Ardour, so I can export them out as MP3's and share them. But first I need to set the configurations. What driver should I use? What latency? I mentioned ALSA cause it's the driver I see on every article about subjects like this. It recognizes Fast Track as a USB device, but I don't get any sound or signs that it's recording.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Like I said, I'm new to all this. I have a strongg knowledge of computers. I'm relatively new with Linux, definitely new to Ubuntu Studio, ALSA, Ardour, and music production.

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    Hi, I have a regular FastTrack also, a nice kit. You'll
    want to look at the qjackctl wiki, worry not about alsa.

    The qjackctl wiki, links 4 and 8 will help set up jackd,
    your high performance linux sound server, (like asio from
    windows world) and its qjackctl gui, with screenshots, and info.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qjackctl

    Run these two commands in a terminal, and look for the
    FastTrack sound device to appear in brackets. snd-ice-1712 is the
    maudio kernel module, so ice1712 in some form, will be output here.

    aplay -l
    cat /proc/asound/cards

    My output looks like

    bash-4.1$ aplay -l
    **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
    card 0: M2496 [M Audio Audiophile 24/96], device 0: ICE1712 multi [ICE1712 multi]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
    bash-4.1$ cat /proc/asound/cards
    0 [M2496 ]: ICE1712 - M Audio Audiophile 24/96
    M Audio Audiophile 24/96 at 0xac00, irq 17

    My pci soundcard has two listings in brackets, (yours will be
    slightly different) M Audio Audiophile 24/96, and ICE1712 multi

    both are shown in qjackctl at the
    setup page on the right side in the dropdown list of

    Input Device >
    Output Device >

    click the > widgets to see the dropdown list. If nothing that is
    listed there now works, in the line where it says hw:0 or similar, substitute something listed in the brackets, without the brackets

    qjackctl mimics the real cables of the 70's so use that old
    sensibility, to conquer the new environment.

    The Periods/Buffer setting in qjackctl Setup page should be 3,
    for any usb gear. The Frames/Period will be your choice,
    try 256 or 128 for live recording, and higher for mastering
    or rendering.

    On the qjackctl Connect page, click to select an item, it highlights, then on the opposite side of that panel, click the item you want to connect to, it highlights, then click the connect button, and a line
    is drawn between them.

    There are three tabs on the Connection panel.
    Your soundcard input is System, on the audio tab, on the left side.

    the soundcard output is System on the right side of
    the Audio tab.

    Start rakarrack, for fx on your bass. It should connect
    automatically in qjackctl, but might be connected mono by default,
    so, if desired, redo the connections for stereo,
    and change the setting in Rakarrack Preferences.
    Like two mono rca cables, you select each pair of rakarrack destinations you want to terminate, and press the
    Disconnect button.

    Then reconnect it to the half of its stereo output that was not used by default.

    A big X will be drawn, when the In and Out of
    rakarrack are connected.

    Ardour connections will show up, and it has useful features to start and connect jackd upon starting ardour.

    There is a little widget on the left side of the various items
    in the qjackctl connection window. + or > etc, click it to
    expand the list, showing all possible i/o on that item

    The alsa tab holds midi connections for keyboards, synthesizers,
    and software midi ports, and the middle Midi tab, connects jackd-aware midi items. That port is launched after jackd is running,
    by

    a2jmidid -j default

    Search for hydrogen and ardour in youtube, many videos
    will show qjackctl and the connections process,
    since it is the first step for nearly everything.

    cheers

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    Hi sgx,

    Thanks for the help thus far. I do however have a few questions. I have followed you steps up until the point of configuring the Connect page. I can't seem to find it.

    I attached a couple of screen shots. One of the terminal displaying the results of what you told me to do in the first few steps, and one of the qjacktl main page. Could you please look these over and point out anything I'm missing? I'm kinda stuck.

    Screenshot - 06232012 - 12:36:11 AM.png
    Screenshot - 06232012 - 12:37:18 AM.png

    Also, please take a look at the terminal screen shot.

    Thanks for your help,

    -Nate

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    Never use picture to show text. Outputs from terminal can be copyied as text. Just copy them here and format them with CODE tags.

    In qjackctl there is button for connections. Press it and window will show.

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    Ok, I did what I was told and it still doesn't. I pretty much need a step by step guide from the get go on how to plug my bass in my m-aduio fast track and record in the ardour. That's it! nothing more. Can some one please help me?

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    I will asume that you configured jack corectly.

    0. plug in bass to usb card
    1. turn on usb card
    2. start jack - with qjackctl
    3. start adrour
    4. make mono audio track - it will automaticly be named Audio1
    5. in qjackctl connections window connect capture_1 to Audio1 - if you connected bass to capture_1 port, this means left channel on physicall stereo input on usb card

    This is the general workflow, adjust it to your setup.

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    I don't know how to configure Jacks. That's my first problem. I'm new to all this. I know nothing.

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    I tried what the first person told me, but I barely get a signal, and I can't hear it back. I've been trying different combinations Input/output devices.

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    Yeah, still doesn't work. I did check the connections like you asked, but nothing. There has been progress as far as output sound. I can hear the click track. What do you mean by " left channel on physicall stereo input on usb card"?

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    Re: M-Audio, Fast Track, and ALSA Setup Questions

    jejeman,

    I know you don't like screen shots, but it's the only way that I know of that will show how my connections are set up. If you see anything wrong, please let me know.

    Thanks a lot for all your help thus far, it's greatly appreciated.

    Screenshot - 06232012 - 06:18:33 PM.png

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