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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    Been playing with Chromium 26 for a few hours. Works great! Flash apps run much better than on Chromium 25.

    The only extension I cannot live without is Ghostery. Installed it. Don't mind ads (kinda like them), but I hate trackers.

    Switched to one of my favorite themes -- Ubuntu Black Magic.

    Imported my bookmarks, and tweaked a few settings, blah, blah, blah.

    As far as starting Chromium 26 goes...

    To recap:

    • I downloaded chromium.zip from the link above.
    • Extracted chromium zip to: /home/vindsl/chrome-linux
    • Renamed resultant folder from: chrome-linux -> .chrome-linux (e.g. hid it).
    • Created an empty config folder: /home/vindsl/.config/chromium-canary
    • Created a .desktop file: /home/vindsl/.local/share/applications/chromium-canary.desktop
    • Here's the command I used: ./.chrome-linux/chrome --user-data-dir=~/.config/chromium-canary %u
    • Made chromium-canary.desktop executable: "Allow executing file as program" (in Nautilus).
    • Added: chromium-canary.desktop to my Gnome-Shell Favorites.

    Loads, runs, shuts down, just like any other proggie...
    Why all that? It works just with
    Code:
    ~/chromium/chrome
    What am I missing? You have Chromium („regularly“) installed so You do not want it to use same ~/.config folder?
    Thank You for reminding me of Ghostery...
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by zika View Post
    Why all that?
    Well...

    My understanding is, there are four levels in the Chrome/Chromium testing hierarchy, and "canary" is untested/not guaranteed to even work.

    I thought it might be a good idea to have two completely separate installs, e.g. two different "regular" and "canary" configs. One install can be updated via a third-party PPA in Synaptic. The other, I can wash, rinse, and restyle via Archive Manager, e.g. overwrite the core program using the latest .zip file, while leaving the configs unmolested.

    Dittos, for the .desktop file(s). I can load/run one or the other install, or both at the same time, by simply clicking one or the other icon, from the Dash.

    Make sense?!?!?
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    Well...

    My understanding is, there are four levels in the Chrome/Chromium testing hierarchy, and "canary" is untested/not guaranteed to even work.

    I thought it might be a good idea to have two completely separate installs, e.g. two different "regular" and "canary" configs. One install can be updated via a third-party PPA in Synaptic. The other, I can wash, rinse, and restyle via Archive Manager, e.g. overwrite the core program using the latest .zip file, while leaving the configs unmolested.

    Dittos, for the .desktop file(s). I can load/run one or the other install, or both at the same time, by simply clicking one or the other icon, from the Dash.

    Make sense?!?!?
    Yes, as I assumed, You have „regular“ Chromium installed... As CLI-guy I'm ascetically-oriented... No icons, etc...
    For example, I still do use Java from a folder where I unpack current EarlyEdition (now it is 8...) and all necessary packages are registered through update-alternatives... So, if I want/need to switch Java off I just rename that folder... Easier than working_with/waiting_for .deb...
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Heh! I'll tell you what...

    Chromium 26 rawks!

    I'm glad the OP started this thread.

    I wonder if I should treat that download link as I would a "daily".

    Timestamps inside the .zip indicate it's updated frequently.
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    Heh! I'll tell you what...

    Chromium 26 rawks!

    I'm glad the OP started this thread.

    I wonder if I should treat that download link as I would a "daily".

    Timestamps inside the .zip indicate it's updated frequently.
    Yes... It is even more than daily... Ideal for my CUD (Compulsive Upgrade Disorder)...
    With Pepper inside Chromium it becomes a winning combination for weaker machines...
    Thank You @Dundo for a push...
    Last edited by zika; January 15th, 2013 at 05:46 PM.

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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Thought maybe I should mention this, while I'm thinking about it...

    I just upgraded to "Chromium Version 26.0.1389.0 (177850)", but not without some drama.

    I used the link (above) but the chrome binary wouldn't fire up. Hrm...

    Doing some forensics, I figured out the link (above) is for the 64-bit Linux version -- and I have a 32-bit machine.

    Doh!

    Thinking back on what I did last Sunday... I evidently used the parent link:


    ...which, AFAIK, auto-magically ascertains the correct version to download, for your particular rig (linux, winders, mac, 32/64 bit, et cetera).

    When I used this link to download Canary, everything went as planned.

    Just saying...
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by zika View Post
    Thank You for reminding me of Ghostery...
    My pleasure!

    Just added TinEye -- another must-have extension, for me.
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    My pleasure!

    Just added TinEye -- another must-have extension, for me.
    After playing with chrome://flags I can not catch up with Chrome... It is faster than my eyes...
    Now that I've found working way of restoring flags if I overdo it, I'm even feeling comfortable playing with all these tweaks... Nice...
    Update₁: Speed increase is big enough to counteract if I turn off any disk cache for Chromium... That was a lacmus (litmus) test for me all these years... This is the (kind of) first time browser passed it...
    Update₂: For quite some time I'm ridden with guilt that we've slipped in offtopic in this thread and that I'm one of guilty ones...
    Last edited by zika; January 20th, 2013 at 12:04 PM.

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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by zika View Post
    Update₂: For quite some time I'm ridden with guilt that we've slipped in offtopic in this thread and that I'm one of guilty ones...
    IMO, the title is sufficiently broad, and generic, to include our discussion(s).

    It's up to the mods/admins, really, to judge our actions. It shouldn't be self-imposed/self-limiting.

    Defense of Position: Are we not demonstrating how to investigate Chromium locks and crashes?

    I spent many hours conjuring up a workaround so Chromium 26 (.zip install) would not lock/crash et cetera. You came up with a simpler, but equally effective solution. And, I think we've done a pretty good job of documenting the process.

    Of particular interest, to me, is how different testers use different tools. That is, every magician has their bag of tricks -- different tools, different techniques, different mindsets -- all based on their experiences from the past.

    Anyway, yes, now that we've accomplished this feat, cobbled together a workaround, and offered POC (proof-of-concept), it would probably be a good idea to spin-off this discussion to a separate thread, e.g.
    "HOWTO: Install/Maintain Chromium Canary in Raring"
    ... or, whatever.

    EDIT

    Or... Simply change the title of this thread.
    Last edited by VinDSL; January 20th, 2013 at 05:49 PM. Reason: Addendum
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    Re: When something locks and crashes; how do I investigate it?

    As far as I'm concerned, the thread is fine as it is, the only thing I'm a bit concerned about, is the the op hasn't chimed in, in a while.

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