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    Re: PAE required for Lubuntu 12.10?

    A brief comment about documentation, and I hope you read this. One way to get people to read the Wiki page is to make it easy to find. I think you need to pay more attention to links at the highest levels. Here's an example.

    I see that many of the topics I mentioned in my previous post are covered in part. But when I had a tough problem with LightDM, here's how I had to find information (albeit much too late to help). I checked Google for Lightdm, and found this:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM .
    That's nice, but how would I find it? It's difficult or impossible to get there from the front page. Here's the front page:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com .
    Can you find the information from there?

    It's easier if you start from help.ubuntu.com. Again, all this needs to be much easier to find. (Incidentally, I have some of this information at one time or another, but in this case I found it long after I had solved a problem the hard way, with a lot of perseverence and luck.)

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    Smile Re: PAE required for Lubuntu 12.10?

    VanillaMozilla,

    On behalf of Lubuntu Team, allow me to thank you for sharing such valuable suggestions and notes. We are keen to listen to our users, take notes and work so hard to achieve the best result.

    You may or may not know that Lubuntu Team is small in numbers but huge in quality and achievement and I'm not saying we are prefect but we are the best in what we do and I'm talking about the whole team, the one family of Lubuntu that I'm honored to be a member of.

    Now, let's talk business.

    I shared exactly the same thought of yours before. Why not to have for example a link of Lubuntu Wiki on the main Wiki pages of Ubuntu? then, after getting my hand dirty and dive deep in the details, I came to know that it is not really necessary for that as things work little bit different than what I thought.

    When someone has a problem, regardless of what is the problem is/could be, he/she simply use Google.
    How it works?
    If you just type "lubuntu", you will on the first page of the result all the main links of Lubuntu that one may needs.

    Trust me, you need to bookmark these:

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 OR https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LubuntuLinks


    On these links, I'm sure you can start your journey. I know you may disagree with me at this point but I really hope you see it from a different point of view.
    This is how it works.

    Also, it is very helpful to use: www.googlubutu.com

    Now, if you still disagree with me, that is fine with me and actually it is healthy and for this, I strongly recommend to join us and start a discussion on one of our official channels - you can find that on the Contact Us page.

    This is how to join: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved

    One of my task on Lubuntu Family is to take care of the Wiki Pages but to be honest, the people who work on that area are very few.
    That is why, we are always looking for more people who can add a value.

    I used to be a very good HOWTO Writers until something happened that changed that. Now, I'm more into the Communications and Support Tasks.

    So, you and everyone else are very welcome to join and share your ideas and help this promising community to grow bigger and better.

    We seek quality not quantity

    I was just a user of Lubuntu and when I wanted to understand what is going on behind the scenes, I simply joined the team to understand better and tell you the truth, there are tons of stuff that I don't really understand (specially the programming part - I'm not a developer and not even close to be) but in the same time, that is the fun part as you always feel hungry for knowledge and to know more and more.

    Thank you so much once more and sorry if I wrote too much. I get excited easily

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    Re: PAE required for Lubuntu 12.10?

    Wow, thanks for your enthusiastic reply. I definitely have bookmarked those links.

    I do believe strongly, though that if a Web site is intended to be read, then everything should be easily accessible by following a few links from the front page. The Ubuntu Wiki fails that test badly, although parts of it are otherwise quite excellent. You have done a great job on that documentation.

    I have found parts of the Wiki through Google, but I'm not sure Google is a good substitute for structure, since it doesn't provide the structure, and mixes the results with many other links.

    I might contribute to the Wiki at some time, but first I have some bugs to report and things to figure out. Thanks again for your help.

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    Re: PAE required for Lubuntu 12.10?

    I'm at your service anytime and you are most welcome, I have done nothing much but thanks a lot for your nice words

    I always take the path which has this sign: "Be the change you want to see around you" and yes, it is not an easy path but it's so wonderful and nice full of challenges.

    You are welcome to join anytime whenever you feel ready

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    Re: PAE required for Lubuntu 12.10?

    I thought I had checked and found that my processor lacks PAE, but it turns out, that's not true. That makes the documentation on this somewhat of a moot point, I believe.

    It turns out that many more processors have PAE than I realized. I am informed that Pentium II and Pentium III processors have PAE. I didn't check that, but at least my own has it. Here's the diagnosis.

    ~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
    model name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
    ...
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse up


    EDIT: It turns out, though, that my Pentium III lacks NX bit capability. PAE does two things: It extends the address space to use more than 4 GB of memory, and it enables the NX bit. It also uses a more complex method of addressing instructions, which may make the computer run a little slower. However, since the computer has <1 GB of memory and lacks NX capability, there is no reason to use the PAE kernel. I have tested, and it works either with or without. The PAE kernel uses a more complex memory-addressing method, so theoretically it may run slower.

    If I knew how, I would mark this thread as solved.
    Last edited by VanillaMozilla; May 2nd, 2013 at 05:13 PM.

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