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    Warning Redbox Instant

    It looks like a good deal but if all you use is linux and a rooted android device don't sign up. It won't even let you launch the app on android if rooted and it uses silverlight just like netflix
    Whoever came up with the phrase "There is no such thing as a stupid question" obviously never had the internet.

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    lol, Silverlight. Microsoft still trying to make use of that Frankenstein....
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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia88 View Post
    It looks like a good deal. But, if all you use is linux or a rooted android device then don't bother signing up. It will not let you launch the app on an android if it has been rooted and it uses silverlight just like Netflix.
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    Thanks for the heads up despite the need to translate..
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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucradia View Post
    lol, Silverlight. Microsoft still trying to make use of that Frankenstein....
    Not fond of Silverlight, but the reasoning behind using it is to prevent the copying of the video content. If it was not for that single reason I doubt anyone would use this mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit View Post
    Not fond of Silverlight, but the reasoning behind using it is to prevent the copying of the video content. If it was not for that single reason I doubt anyone would use this mess.
    people will copy video content no matter how much drm it has on it. the sooner these companies learn that they are only hurting paying customers the better.
    Whoever came up with the phrase "There is no such thing as a stupid question" obviously never had the internet.

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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    Quote Originally Posted by bandit View Post
    corrected grammar...


    thanks for the heads up despite the need to translate..
    corrected spelling
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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia88 View Post
    It looks like a good deal but if all you use is linux and a rooted android device don't sign up. It won't even let you launch the app on android if rooted and it uses silverlight just like netflix
    Dammit, that's extremely disappointing. I was hoping we'd finally have a Netflix alternative that will work in Linux.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit View Post
    Not fond of Silverlight, but the reasoning behind using it is to prevent the copying of the video content. If it was not for that single reason I doubt anyone would use this mess.
    Amazon, Hulu, Crackle, et al seem to be able to provide satisfactory DRM without Silverlight.

    It's crap like this that makes it so hard for me to recommend Linux to my friends and family. Seems like there's always something an average user will want that isn't supported. I don't blame GNU/Linux, but I also don't know what the solution is.

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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    Quote Originally Posted by mamamia88 View Post
    people will copy video content no matter how much drm it has on it. the sooner these companies learn that they are only hurting paying customers the better.
    someone needs to teach them about screen recorders, no matter how much DRM they use they can't prevent that, not like that would be hard for someone to do, and any way around DRM makes it pointless so i just annoys legitimate users
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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    Quote Originally Posted by pqwoerituytrueiwoq View Post
    someone needs to teach them about screen recorders, no matter how much DRM they use they can't prevent that, not like that would be hard for someone to do, and any way around DRM makes it pointless so i just annoys legitimate users
    The current trend in DRM is
    1) Lock the bootloader
    2) Permit only approved operating systems to be installed
    3) Deny the end owner full administrative or root access
    2) Permit the installation of software only from an approved store / source
    The is the approach behind:
    The TiVo
    Game consoles. Xbox, PS3 etc,
    ebook readers, Amazon Kindle etc
    IOS devices iPod, iPhone, iPad
    Windows 8 RT and Windows 8 Modern UI
    Windows phone
    etc.
    Locked Android devices (this is a requirement for DRM) on Android
    It is also the real motivation behind the locked UEFI boot loaders in Windows 8, and the requirement for signed drivers in 64bit Windows Vista/7. Desktop Windows is in transition over time from the open Windows 98 / NT4 model to the complete lockdown in Windows 8 RT on ARM.

    The idea is very simple. Do not permit software that can break the DRM to get past the censors in the store, and do not allow the end user to install their own software or software from a source that is not approved.

    Free Libre Open Source Software alone is not enough for example Linux and Android or GNU/Linux before GPL v3 such as the original Tivo can still be locked down in this fashion. One needs GPL v3 code deep enough in the operating system so that root or administrative access is required to modify the GPL v3 code. Modern GNU/Linux distributions such as Ubuntu 8.x or later (and yes this includes Ubuntu phone OS!) are safe from this kind of DRM.

    Freedom from this kind of DRM is far more important in my opinion than the question of free vs propriety software. For example Windows NT4 is a far freer system than a tivoized gNewSense 1.0.

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    Re: Warning Redbox Instant

    If you use CamStudio, it likely will record the Metro UI (not tested yet) if it can, then that's that. CamStudio doesn't require Admin rights to run. Fraps and hooking recorders do. gtk-recordmydesktop / recordmydesktop does that as well.

    Hooking up a black magic HDMI input PCIe card inside your computer, then making your android phone output via HDMI into your computer will allow you to bypass DRM easy and record your videos.

    So unless they remove HDMI output while playing these videos, then it's not going to help.
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