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    Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    I've been working on this "on the side" and I'm definitely gaining ground, as they say a picture is worth a thousand words:

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    Caffeine works just as well as the old 'gnome-inhibit-applet' to control 'xscreensaver', and some people don't like the limitations of 'gnome-screensaver' now anyway.

    I managed to get the "indicator-applet" to display cpu/system temps, but I need to rinse-n-repeat a few times before I can document how I did it.

    The Clearlooks theme is easy to modify so it's fairly easy to get things to look quite "gnome-2-ish"

    But there are a few minor frustrations ......... mostly just a matter of me needing to spend some time figuring out the LXDE and PCManFM config file structures, but there is absolutely no need for anyone to fear that the old desktop paradigm is dying

    NOTE: This is a "mash-up" of both Quantal and Raring packages because some things are not yet available in Raring

    BTW I'm sure that others will prefer Xubuntu/Xfce and that's just fine.
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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    I've been working on this "on the side" and I'm definitely gaining ground, as they say a picture is worth a thousand words:

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 03:59:30 PM.jpg

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 04:01:06 PM.jpg

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 04:02:50 PM.jpg

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 04:05:02 PM.jpg

    Caffeine works just as well as the old 'gnome-inhibit-applet' to control 'xscreensaver', and some people don't like the limitations of 'gnome-screensaver' now anyway.

    I managed to get the "indicator-applet" to display cpu/system temps, but I need to rinse-n-repeat a few times before I can document how I did it.

    The Clearlooks theme is easy to modify so it's fairly easy to get things to look quite "gnome-2-ish"

    But there are a few minor frustrations ......... mostly just a matter of me needing to spend some time figuring out the LXDE and PCManFM config file structures, but there is absolutely no need for anyone to fear that the old desktop paradigm is dying

    NOTE: This is a "mash-up" of both Quantal and Raring packages because some things are not yet available in Raring

    BTW I'm sure that others will prefer Xubuntu/Xfce and that's just fine.
    I'm running Mate on Raring and it works well. I always liked the Gnome 2 desktop and for me this is the best alternative. The clearlooks-phenix-theme from the repositories works well with both GTK 2 and 3.

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by A_T View Post
    I'm running Mate on Raring and it works well. I always liked the Gnome 2 desktop and for me this is the best alternative. The clearlooks-phenix-theme from the repositories works well with both GTK 2 and 3.
    Did you just use the Quantal version of MATE?

    I've tested the MATE version of Snowlinux and it's pretty impressive but I rather prefer "rolling my own"

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    Did you just use the Quantal version of MATE?

    I've tested the MATE version of Snowlinux and it's pretty impressive but I rather prefer "rolling my own"
    yes I add the following line to my sources.list

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    deb http://packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/ubuntu quantal main
    I haven't had any problems so far.

    I think I'm a bit like you I prefer to build my own Ubuntu or Debian rather than use something like Snowlinux - although I'm sure there's nothing wrong with it.

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    I have used Lubuntu as a sort of gnome replacement by adding Libre replacing chromium with firetox (chromium can't handle my bookmarks nearly as well as firefox)

    Then I sit with leafpad I prefer gedit, pcmanfm I prefer nautilus, abi whatever which don't do what I want to do, ....

    The other thing I've done is install lxde on top of ubuntu which has been a real struggle since during development logoff/logon to lxde frequently doesn't work.

    So I test raring unity, then for a gnome like get the work done use linux mint 14 usually mate I'm not so sure about cinnamon.

    Now I have 7" and 10.1" tablets with Android. Unity at it's present stage with faster processors and equal or more memory just doesn't cut it, for what I'm able to do with Android. linux is still more general purpose for me.

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    I keep figuring out more and more little things. Like copy-n-paste always seemed to be a bit of a kludge in Lubuntu (or even Xubuntu) and come to find out it has a lot to do with the default double-click mouse settings.

    I plowed through Ubuntu's dconf and found that the default is 400 ms, whereas Lubuntu is 200 ms, and Xubuntu is 250 ms. It's amazing just how much difference a minor tweak like that effects overall performance and usability

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    I've been working on this "on the side" and I'm definitely gaining ground, as they say a picture is worth a thousand words:

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 03:59:30 PM.jpg

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 04:01:06 PM.jpg

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 04:02:50 PM.jpg

    Screenshot - 12292012 - 04:05:02 PM.jpg

    Caffeine works just as well as the old 'gnome-inhibit-applet' to control 'xscreensaver', and some people don't like the limitations of 'gnome-screensaver' now anyway.

    I managed to get the "indicator-applet" to display cpu/system temps, but I need to rinse-n-repeat a few times before I can document how I did it.

    The Clearlooks theme is easy to modify so it's fairly easy to get things to look quite "gnome-2-ish"

    But there are a few minor frustrations ......... mostly just a matter of me needing to spend some time figuring out the LXDE and PCManFM config file structures, but there is absolutely no need for anyone to fear that the old desktop paradigm is dying

    NOTE: This is a "mash-up" of both Quantal and Raring packages because some things are not yet available in Raring

    BTW I'm sure that others will prefer Xubuntu/Xfce and that's just fine.
    Hi,

    Just to make sure we are on the same boat/page. Are you trying to achieve similar experience/environment to GNOME 2 by using Lubuntu?

    On a side note: Before my passion and obsession for Lubuntu started, I used to love GNOME2 and Ubuntu 10.04 was my favorite. Well, that is history now

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by amjjawad View Post
    Hi,

    Just to make sure we are on the same boat/page. Are you trying to achieve similar experience/environment to GNOME 2 by using Lubuntu?

    On a side note: Before my passion and obsession for Lubuntu started, I used to love GNOME2 and Ubuntu 10.04 was my favorite. Well, that is history now
    Basically yes. In fact i can get almost everything to behave as though I were using Gnome 2. The one thing I haven't figured out is why in GNOME you can highlight text, then click anywhere on that page to copy or cut, but with Openbox/Lubuntu you must focus the mouse directly over the highlighted text. But Clearlooks still works perfectly in Lubuntu

    And it looks like I may have Julien talked into pursuing a LTS for 14.04! I proposed 30 to 36 months.

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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    And imagine Ubuntu would give the edge to GNOME 3 Classic Mode again like it did with GNOME 2. It could work but yes now we have other "fancy shells" and we have to see what they will achieve first.

    P.S. But it's nice to know there still is something we could call Classic Mode officially supported by GNOME team!
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    Re: Getting Lubuntu close to being a "gnome-classic" replacement

    Situation is improving bit by bit for users that would like to use GNOME but don't feel comfortable using GnomeShell:

    http://www.h-online.com/open/news/it...e-1832713.html

    The problem is you have to have decent GPU acceleration if you don't want to have slow DE but i do imagine this is not to hard to achieve nowadays. There are still issues like why can't i rotate the cube... but i do see possibility Classic Mode would become used/loved again. I don't think GnomeShell in the state it is today (the whole paradigm/concept) will become something used/loved by huge user base but i do see possibility for GNOME to pull it off with Classic Mode to some extent.

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