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    The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    Hi, could we, as a loCo, come with this promise for an out-of-the-box desktop system? Because of:
    - Ubuntu has SUDO
    - Ubuntu has TRUSTED SOFTWARE SOURCES
    - Ubuntu has no significant listening services: NO OPEN PORTS
    - Malware is written for Windows
    - There are no Linux viruses active in "the wild"

    I am aware of this excellent guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity with his myth and reality way of explaining security. But for an average beginner, it is technical, and deterrent.(imho)
    How can we best inform en educate beginners in security related matters?
    Is it just a "relax and enjoy", or is there more to say?

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    If ubuntu is 100% safe why do we have security updates?

    Edit: Nevermind, I just found out why.

    http://www.linuxsecurity.com/
    Last edited by ibjsb4; November 2nd, 2012 at 07:24 PM.

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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    Quote Originally Posted by Soul-Sing View Post
    Hi, could we, as a loCo, come with this promise for an out-of-the-box desktop system? Because of:
    - Ubuntu has SUDO
    - Ubuntu has TRUSTED SOFTWARE SOURCES
    - Ubuntu has no significant listening services: NO OPEN PORTS
    - Malware is written for Windows
    - There are no Linux viruses active in "the wild"

    I am aware of this excellent guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity with his myth and reality way of explaining security. But for an average beginner, it is technical, and deterrent.(imho)
    How can we best inform en educate beginners in security related matters?
    Is it just a "relax and enjoy", or is there more to say?

    regards
    S.
    Just imagine that you live in a place where no other living being capable to hurt you (the viruses in Wild Wild Web) can be found within a radius of 200 miles. Would or should you consider your self 100% safe. What if you travel 200 miles just to invite a serial killer (a computer killer virus) for a dinner at your home. Should you consider the presence of a gun (an anti virus) in your pocket as a 100% safety measure.

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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    Quote Originally Posted by ibjsb4 View Post
    If ubuntu is 100% safe why do we have security updates?

    Edit: Nevermind, I just found out why.

    http://www.linuxsecurity.com/
    Thank you I wasn't aware of any security updates, and the linkage you gave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkadeel View Post
    Just imagine that you live in a place where no other living being capable to hurt you (the viruses in Wild Wild Web) can be found within a radius of 200 miles. Would or should you consider your self 100% safe. What if you travel 200 miles just to invite a serial killer (a computer killer virus) for a dinner at your home. Should you consider the presence of a gun (an anti virus) in your pocket as a 100% safety measure.
    Exact the 200 miles? Not 300 miles? Sure?

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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    Also the laptop models that have acpi fan control 'issues', all that repeated overheating is definitely not safe or good for your cpu/hardware.

    Acer 5532 for example.

    Other than that, be safe and informed and imho Ubuntu will meet you halfway in most all cases.
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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    There is security in theory and security in practice. Security in practice is a temporary state, it means nothing - you're in a negative state of "not being attacked". Security in theory is a matter of risk analysis and reactions to it, you are secure regardless of your state.

    Most users really only care about being secure in practice. The wiki is there for those who want to be secure in theory.

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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    Quote Originally Posted by Hungry Man View Post
    There is security in theory and security in practice. Security in practice is a temporary state, it means nothing - you're in a negative state of "not being attacked". Security in theory is a matter of risk analysis and reactions to it, you are secure regardless of your state.

    Most users really only care about being secure in practice. The wiki is there for those who want to be secure in theory.
    This ^. That wiki page is still a good one, even if it is a bit "techy."
    Come to #ubuntuforums! We have cookies! | Basic Ubuntu Security Guide

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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    Your second to last comment is patently untrue.

    You can quibble about the last item. The recent spate of Java exploits, although not technically "viruses", showed that even Linux is not safe and the Java vulnerability allowed targeting of Linux just as easily as Microsoft and Apple.

    Guaranteeing 100% safety is, well, misleading and rather foolish.
    Last edited by QIII; November 2nd, 2012 at 11:45 PM.
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    Re: The ubuntu is 100% safe promise

    I would feel pretty comfortable saying that the risk of getting malware is considerably lower even without taking any additional steps aside from installing Ubuntu as the OS. Since a lot of people think of a lower malware risk as security, it would probably be good enough for them, and they wouldn't have to know anything more technical than that if they didn't want to.

    The risk of everything other than malware is probably about the same as other modern operating systems, but everything other than malware combined is still tiny compared to malware as far as problems an average user is likely to encounter on the web.

    So yeah that doesn't have quite as much punch as saying 100% secure, but it's the best I can do.

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