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    No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    I am unable to create a 64-bit virtual machine in Oracle VirtualBox. Machine is Toshiba Satellite-L505. I am on 12.04 LTS. VBox v4.1.12_Ubuntu r77245. I have verified the processor using $cat /proc/cpuinfo. It lists 'lm' in "flags" section. It is my understanding that the 'lm' flag denotes a 64-bit processor. I also verified this was a 64-bit machine before I nuked win7 as primary OS. I am not dual booting. Ubuntu is only OS. I am trying to create the VBox to store the files from my win7 install. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    is your host a 64bit OS?


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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    It is. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    Did you install it per Debian-based Linux distributions at https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

    Did you add your user to vboxusers group in the host computer?

    Works for me (PC in my sig) in 64-bit 12.04 as host. As guests I installed a real slim 64-bit Debian base system using 512 MB and adding lxde myself to get a feel for Raspian for when I receive a Raspberry Pi (computer on a small board), 64-bit Debian with default gnome in 1 GB to figure out how to get audio working in the other lxde vbox, and 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10 guest that I gave 2 to 3 GB and 2 cores. Although, in Debian versions I had to remove their older default guest additions to use current 4.2.4 guest additions included in /usr/share/virtualbox (which requires kernel headers in the guests).

    How much RAM does your laptop have and how many cores? What OS are you trying to install as a guest in vbox?
    Last edited by efflandt; November 29th, 2012 at 01:15 AM.
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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    I installed from Software Center. I added user to vboxusers. I have Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4400 @ 2.20GHz × 2 with 2.8GiB usable RAM. I am trying to install Windows 7 64-bit. When i first start the process of creating virtual box, I am unable to select a 64-bit version of anything. I am using the same Linux distro and VBox version on my other laptop without issue. That machine is i7 Vaio with 8Gib RAM. I belive the machine with the issue meets specs to run VBox. Very strange. Here are the results from running $cat /proc/cpuinfo:

    cat /proc/cpuinfo
    processor : 0
    vendor_id : GenuineIntel
    cpu family : 6
    model : 23
    model name : Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4400 @ 2.20GHz
    stepping : 10
    microcode : 0xa07
    cpu MHz : 1200.000
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 0
    cpu cores : 2
    apicid : 0
    initial apicid : 0
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 13
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm xsave lahf_lm dtherm
    bogomips : 4388.84
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
    power management:

    processor : 1
    vendor_id : GenuineIntel
    cpu family : 6
    model : 23
    model name : Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4400 @ 2.20GHz
    stepping : 10
    microcode : 0xa07
    cpu MHz : 1200.000
    cache size : 1024 KB
    physical id : 0
    siblings : 2
    core id : 1
    cpu cores : 2
    apicid : 1
    initial apicid : 1
    fpu : yes
    fpu_exception : yes
    cpuid level : 13
    wp : yes
    flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm xsave lahf_lm dtherm
    bogomips : 4388.94
    clflush size : 64
    cache_alignment : 64
    address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual

    And for the record, I am not familiar with all the fields returned by that command. I was told the 'lm' preceding the 'constant_tsc' flag denotes 64-bit processor.
    Last edited by jaeddu; November 29th, 2012 at 03:43 PM.

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeddu View Post
    I am unable to create a 64-bit virtual machine in Oracle VirtualBox. Machine is Toshiba Satellite-L505. I am on 12.04 LTS. VBox v4.1.12_Ubuntu r77245. I have verified the processor using $cat /proc/cpuinfo. It lists 'lm' in "flags" section. It is my understanding that the 'lm' flag denotes a 64-bit processor. I also verified this was a 64-bit machine before I nuked win7 as primary OS. I am not dual booting. Ubuntu is only OS. I am trying to create the VBox to store the files from my win7 install. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    This is what Virtualbox help says
    Quote Originally Posted by virtualbox
    p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } 3.1.2. 64-bit guests
    VirtualBox supports 64-bit guest operating systems, even on 32-bit host operating systems,[11] provided that the following conditions are met:

    • You need a 64-bit processor with hardware virtualization support (see Section 10.3, “Hardware vs. software virtualization”).
    • You must enable hardware virtualization for the particular VM for which you want 64-bit support; software virtualization is not supported for 64-bit VMs.
    • If you want to use 64-bit guest support on a 32-bit host operating system, you must also select a 64-bit operating system for the particular VM. Since supporting 64 bits on 32-bit hosts incurs additional overhead, VirtualBox only enables this support upon explicit request.

    On 64-bit hosts (which typically come with hardware virtualization support), 64-bit guest operating systems are always supported regardless of settings, so you can simply install a 64-bit operating system in the guest.
    Warning
    On any host, you should enable the I/O APIC for virtual machines that you intend to use in 64-bit mode. This is especially true for 64-bit Windows VMs. See Section 3.3.2, “"Advanced" tab”. In addition, for 64-bit Windows guests, you should make sure that the VM uses the Intel networking device, since there is no 64-bit driver support for the AMD PCNet card; see Section 6.1, “Virtual networking hardware”.
    p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
    According to this, we can create a 64bit guest on 32bit OS if

    1. we have a 64bit processor with virtualization support in BIOS
    2. we have enabled VT-x/AMD-V in VM guest settings
    3. we have enabled I/O APIC if the guest will be windows

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    I looked in system BIOS and I do not see any explicit virtualization support. But I don't understand why that would prevent 64-bit guest on 64-bit host. I reinstalled from the link provided by efflandt just to be sure. Same result. When I just select the Windows 7 (no 64-bit option) and create the virtual machine, then I try to install the guest OS and i get an error from the guest machine saying a 64-bit application is not supported.

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    I also am unable to create any 64-bit guest OS. Including Ubuntu.
    Last edited by jaeddu; November 29th, 2012 at 05:39 PM.

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeddu View Post
    I looked in system BIOS and I do not see any explicit virtualization support. But I don't understand why that would prevent 64-bit guest on 64-bit host. I reinstalled from the link provided by efflandt just to be sure. Same result. When I just select the Windows 7 (no 64-bit option) and create the virtual machine, then I try to install the guest OS and i get an error from the guest machine saying a 64-bit application is not supported.
    On a 64bit hardware 64bit OS you shall be able to install 64bit guest regardless of whether virtualization setting is enabled or disabled in BIOS and VM settings.

    If enabling I/O APIC option on "System" tab of VM setting does not solve your problem then I would recommend upgrading your virtualbox software to version 4.2.4 directly from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
    Instead of downloading the .deb file follow the "debian based linux distributions" method
    Last edited by pkadeel; November 29th, 2012 at 07:25 PM.

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    Re: No 64-bit OS option in VirtualBox

    Quote Originally Posted by pkadeel View Post
    On a 64bit hardware 64bit OS you shall be able to install 64bit guest regardless of whether virtualization setting is enabled or disabled in BIOS and VM settings.
    You'd think so but that isn't the case, you need hardware virtualization enabled to install any 64-bit OS.

    @jaeddu
    What make and model is your motherboard? You may just be unlucky and have a rare motherboard that doesn't support hardware virtualisation.

    Also can you post the output of:
    Code:
    uname -a
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