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    Re: Turbo Unity?!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MG&TL View Post
    Since I don't have that file on a normal install, I think it's safe to remove it and see if that fixes the problem.

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    Yeh, I did that. No help, still busted. I just zsync'd raring since updating the 3.7.0.0 to 3.7.0-3 occupies 10% more disk space even after removing linux-image, headers, apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean, apt-get autoremove.

    p.s. no go on install. Gets to the part where it is looking at the partitions and spins forever. And ever. Tried update/upgrade no help.
    Last edited by jerrylamos; November 27th, 2012 at 02:38 AM. Reason: Latest .iso doesn't install.

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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    On topic, to me, more like tolerable unity. unity is usable, though the slowest linux to boot that I have.

    I've got a Lubuntu (+Firefox +Libre) on an older laptop. Bang! Click! Snap! Do a select I'm waiting for the window to change - oops, it did already so fast I didn't see it flick on.

    On the faster laptop raring unity does run without dragging its feet too much.

    "faster than normal" is my Android tablet....that is, faster at what it will do, rather a real slug to do much text input even with the factory keyboard.

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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    On topic, maybe Unity seems faster than it was to some people - I don't have any benchmarks to show that. Earlier Unity I resorted to 2D or Lxde I am able to use Unity O.K. lately.

    Just tried Linux Mint amd64 14 for what I do noticeably faster and less keystrokes than Unity. No benchmarks. Now that wasn't a desktop I'd put on a phone, I'd use Android. And comparing 1.0 GHz Android to 1.6 GHz Unity on same size pc's the Android is way faster for what it will do - internet- I don't have a clue how to do Libre Office or manage photo galleries on an Android.

    I see people have Ubuntu on a Nexus 7, or maybe on a Nook (via SD card) I'll be interested in any comparisons to their native operating system.

    I do run Unity for testing purposes.

    Anyone have any desktop benchmark methods?

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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrylamos View Post
    On topic, maybe Unity seems faster than it was to some people - I don't have any benchmarks to show that. Earlier Unity I resorted to 2D or Lxde I am able to use Unity O.K. lately.
    Just tried Linux Mint amd64 14 for what I do noticeably faster and less keystrokes than Unity.

    Anyone have any desktop benchmark methods?
    I am beta testing Ubuntu Unity 3D desktop amd64bit kernels on the previously mentioned machines. Not beta testing Linux Mint. As previously mentioned, gtkperf (sudo apt-get install gtkperf) and run that from terminal. Switch through GRUB with different kernels and notice the difference in time (with the different conditions) it takes to complete that test, then you will notice performance increase across different kernels. This thread does not mention tests for Lubuntu. Xubuntu or Kubuntu.

    Here's how:

    Code:
    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 08:40:03 2012
    
    GtkEntry - time:  0.10
    GtkComboBox - time:  7.28
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  2.34
    GtkSpinButton - time:  0.48
    GtkProgressBar - time:  0.94
    GtkToggleButton - time:  4.35
    GtkCheckButton - time:  0.43
    GtkRadioButton - time:  0.67
    GtkTextView - Add text - time:  2.10
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.40
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  5.13
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  5.51
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  3.99
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  1.29
     --- 
    Total time: 35.02
    
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ uname -a
    Linux ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N 3.7.0-030700rc2-generic #201210220428 SMP Mon Oct 22 08:37:05 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$
    Code:
    Old Quantal Questzal Kernel, 32bit
    
    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 08:55:16 2012
    
    GtkEntry - time:  0.10
    GtkComboBox - time:  8.85
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  3.41
    GtkSpinButton - time:  0.64
    GtkProgressBar - time:  2.09
    GtkToggleButton - time:  4.75
    GtkCheckButton - time:  0.75
    GtkRadioButton - time:  1.35
    GtkTextView - Add text - time:  2.35
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.43
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  4.11
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  5.52
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  3.88
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  1.11
     --- 
    Total time: 39.34
    
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ uname -a
    Linux ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:32:08 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$
    Code:
    with ccsm on:
    
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ uname -a
    Linux ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N 3.7.0-3-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 20 22:38:45 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ 
    
    
    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 09:13:32 2012
    
    GtkEntry - time:  0.10
    GtkComboBox - time:  7.75
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  3.47
    GtkSpinButton - time:  0.97
    GtkProgressBar - time:  1.55
    GtkToggleButton - time:  4.59
    GtkCheckButton - time:  0.37
    GtkRadioButton - time:  0.59
    GtkTextView - Add text - time:  1.82
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.36
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  4.71
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  4.50
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  3.56
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  1.18
     --- 
    Total time: 35.55
    Code:
    with ccsm off:
    
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ uname -a
    Linux ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N 3.7.0-3-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 20 22:38:45 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ 
    
    
    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 09:19:10 2012
    
    GtkEntry - time:  0.10
    GtkComboBox - time:  2.65
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  1.09
    GtkSpinButton - time:  0.26
    GtkProgressBar - time:  0.44
    GtkToggleButton - time:  1.03
    GtkCheckButton - time:  0.24
    GtkRadioButton - time:  0.37
    GtkTextView - Add text - time:  1.23
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.28
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  2.17
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  3.66
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  2.49
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0.41
     --- 
    Total time: 16.44
    Code:
    without ccsm:
    
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ uname -a
    Linux ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N 3.7.0-030700rc7-generic #201211252135 SMP Mon Nov 26 02:35:53 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    ventrical@ventrical-PY028AA-ABA-A1106N:~$ 
    
    
    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 09:28:53 2012
    
    GtkEntry - time:  0.09
    GtkComboBox - time:  2.58
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time:  1.13
    GtkSpinButton - time:  0.25
    GtkProgressBar - time:  0.43
    GtkToggleButton - time:  1.01
    GtkCheckButton - time:  0.24
    GtkRadioButton - time:  0.37
    GtkTextView - Add text - time:  1.23
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time:  0.27
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time:  2.11
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time:  3.54
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time:  2.42
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time:  0.39
     --- 
    Total time: 16.07
    So, as you can see , there is a gradual increase in performance, although this thread did not originally address the newer kernels installed on hardware, but, rather a responsive like activity coming from the Daliy Live Build of Friday, Nov.23/2012.

    I am just trying to report beta testing of Unity 3D Raring Ringtail as best as possibly with the tools at hand.

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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    Interesting... I use gtkperf all the time, as updates come and go. Latest:

    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 11:02:12 2012

    GtkEntry - time: 0.02
    GtkComboBox - time: 0.70
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 0.26
    GtkSpinButton - time: 0.05
    GtkProgressBar - time: 0.11
    GtkToggleButton - time: 0.28
    GtkCheckButton - time: 0.05
    GtkRadioButton - time: 0.08
    GtkTextView - Add text - time: 0.35
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 0.04
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time: 0.59
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time: 0.52
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 0.37
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time: 0.09
    ---
    Total time: 3.52

    frank@cutie:~$ uname -a
    Linux cutie 3.7.0-4-generic #12-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 27 23:13:21 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    With ccsm... never tried to uninstall it. Of course with Unity 3D.

    To me the fastest has been with the released version of 12.10, gtkperf 3.2. 13.04 is just a tad slower,
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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by fjgaude View Post
    Interesting... I use gtkperf all the time, as updates come and go. Latest:

    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Nov 29 11:02:12 2012

    GtkEntry - time: 0.02
    GtkComboBox - time: 0.70
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 0.26
    GtkSpinButton - time: 0.05
    GtkProgressBar - time: 0.11
    GtkToggleButton - time: 0.28
    GtkCheckButton - time: 0.05
    GtkRadioButton - time: 0.08
    GtkTextView - Add text - time: 0.35
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 0.04
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time: 0.59
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time: 0.52
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 0.37
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time: 0.09
    ---
    Total time: 3.52

    frank@cutie:~$ uname -a
    Linux cutie 3.7.0-4-generic #12-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 27 23:13:21 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    With ccsm... never tried to uninstall it. Of course with Unity 3D.

    To me the fastest has been with the released version of 12.10, gtkperf 3.2. 13.04 is just a tad slower,

    At 3.8GHz of course it is going to be faster
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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    I hope I am not too off topic, as I use Enlightenment (Unity on my gma 500 is not usable), but I tried the method of starting E. without lightdm and I get the same result in gtkperf, i.e. around 31s. (kernel 3.7 rc6) so no effect on enlightenment.

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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    I have been looking around for other benchmarking software. There is 'saidar' and a suite from Phoronix and others in the USC, some cost $$ and others and not spoken too highly of. Looks like the simplest test is gtkperf.

    I cannot definitively say whether or not this test actually validates if Unity is running faster with the newer kernels coming down the pipe. gtkperf findings report that they are, but I can only assume that this program is reliable based on the testimonials given.

    Firstly, I am not a Unity expert nor an Ubuntu expert nor a Linux expert. As mentioned above , I am just using what ever tools that are lying around on the shop floor .. so to speak.

    Thank you for your results on E. I have used that DE but I haven't tested it in the manner you have mentioned above. Simply ? I just don't know. So, my assumptions are documented by the output of the program gtkperf. If that then is vaild proof of a performance increase then the performance increase in not verisimilitude.
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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ventrical View Post
    I cannot definitively say whether or not this test actually validates if Unity is running faster with the newer kernels coming down the pipe. gtkperf findings report that they are...
    I too usually run gtkperf after a driver or kernel update. Honestly the variance is typically negligible with the kernel version changes.

    I was surprised yesterday after I'd compiled the latest kernel 3.4.23 and saw gtkperf was about 10% slower. I've reverted back to the stock kernel on debian wheezy for now but will build 3.6.10 today and test

    GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Tue Dec 11 12:56:18 2012

    GtkEntry - time: 0.01
    GtkComboBox - time: 0.56
    GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 0.50
    GtkSpinButton - time: 0.04
    GtkProgressBar - time: 0.05
    GtkToggleButton - time: 0.09
    GtkCheckButton - time: 0.03
    GtkRadioButton - time: 0.03
    GtkTextView - Add text - time: 0.07
    GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 0.11
    GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time: 0.17
    GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time: 0.18
    GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 0.09
    GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time: 0.03
    ---
    Total time: 1.96

    $ uname -a
    Linux humonculux 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.32-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    $ nvidia-settings -v
    nvidia-settings: version 304.48
    Last edited by tekstr1der; December 11th, 2012 at 07:09 PM. Reason: Spelling

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    Re: Unity faster than normal?

    I am basically running: Linux dale-desktop 3.7.0-030700rc8-generic #201212031649 SMP Mon Dec 3 22:00:46 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
    on most of my installs atm. Final now installed .. ready to load.
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