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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Not a useful answer, I assume, but monitors don't have drivers

    They might come with a disk with some files that specify their capabilities, but that is it. For windows, it's registry entries. For Linux, they are useful if you can't find the specs of your monitor (vertical and horizontal refresh rates); read them and place the parameters in xorg.conf.
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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecat View Post
    A default fresh install of Ubuntu takes up only about 2.4GB, but with wubi you have to take into account the size of the root.disk file, the virtual partition. The default (smallest size) for this is 8GB. Whether your wubi install only has 2.4GB of files or whether it has more, the root.disk file stays the same size - 8GB - in the NTFS filesystem. You say XP takes up about 25GB. Add 8GB = 33GB, which leaves only 7GB breathing space. 33 of 40 used up leaves only 17.5% free which is less than the 30% that oldfred mentioned can cause XP itself to slow down.

    But the situation is worse than that - those figures are not correct. The 40 GB is in gigabytes (base 10) which equals 37.25GiB (Gibibytes - base 2). The 8GB virtual partition is in fact 8 GiB and if you got the 25GB figure off XP's explorer that is probably also in GiB. 37.25 - 8 - 25 = 4.25 GiB left free which is only 11.4%. It will work, but you don't have much space to work in and XP will probably be slowed even more.
    I think that it is not correct that 30% of the HDD is needed by XP so that it does not slow down. I am running on this laptop a guest XP running under VirtuaBox with Ubuntu 10.4 as the host. VirtualBox allocated 10GB for XP, 8.5GB is used with just 1.5GB free.
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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wim Sturkenboom View Post
    Not a useful answer, I assume, but monitors don't have drivers

    They might come with a disk with some files that specify their capabilities, but that is it. For windows, it's registry entries. For Linux, they are useful if you can't find the specs of your monitor (vertical and horizontal refresh rates); read them and place the parameters in xorg.conf.
    OK I stand corrected re "monitors don't have drivers". It could possibly be a corrupted registry that is causing my friend's desktop XP system to run slowly and be painfully slow in bringing up application windows.

    My plan now is
    1. To lend my friend my spare laptop. A 7 year old Toshiba that I used today to create a bare bones XP system. I've uninstalled all Toshiba bloatware and the only extra programs installed are Zonelarm Free - Firewall and Anti-Virus, Thunderbird, Firefox and LibreOffice.
    The 60GB HDD has 50GB free.
    2. Remove the 40GB HDD from his Dell desktop. (It looks like it is an unknown manufacturer's HDD supplied with the desktop). Move his 150GB Maxtor/Seagate HDD from the middle to the end of the data cable and set its jumpers to be master if necdessary. Reinstall XP, etc and restore his data. If this does not produce an XP system that runs fast enough he will at least have my Toshiba laptop to use and can decide if he will buy a new PC which will if possible have W7 installed on it.
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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wim Sturkenboom View Post
    Not a useful answer, I assume, but monitors don't have drivers
    I imagine the OP is referring to the graphics drivers. (But my monitor does have a driver; it is the subject of a bug, because it worked with 11.04 but no 12.04.)

    Quote Originally Posted by welshmike View Post
    I think that it is not correct that 30% of the HDD is needed by XP so that it does not slow down. I am running on this laptop a guest XP running under VirtuaBox with Ubuntu 10.4 as the host. VirtualBox allocated 10GB for XP, 8.5GB is used with just 1.5GB free.
    That is not comparing like-for-like. Not only are you using a different machine, but also the guest machine uses the resources of the host machine, especially if you have allowed the guest to use the host's caching.

    Quote Originally Posted by welshmike View Post
    … the only extra programs installed are Zonelarm Free - Firewall and Anti-Virus…
    It is my experience that Microsoft's Security Essentials works as well as the other free anti-malware products, and does not slow down Windows. You may want to try it instead of ZoneAlarm.
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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Thanks Paddy,

    I had suspected that the guest machine uses the resources of the host machine.

    I have to admit that I am prejudiced against Microsoft's stuff (oh how I appreciate not only Linux distros but the revelation [I'm a retired mainframe System Software developer] of the FSF, FOSS and especially LAMP that I studied and used to create a CMS system in the early 2000s) but I will give Microsoft's Security Essential a go instead of ZoneAlarm.
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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Quote Originally Posted by welshmike View Post
    I have to admit that I am prejudiced against Microsoft's stuff…
    Years of a badly-bugged OS can do that. However, MS seems to have been pulling up its socks lately (especially with Windows 7), and the Security Essentials product works well.

    Unfortunately for the other companies, Security Essentials may put their personal desktop editions out of business unless they concentrate on Mac OS and Linux (including Android).
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    Re: Does Windows XP affect WUBI performance?

    Paddy,

    I (reluctantly) agree that Window 7s from the start appears to be a significant improvement over XP maybe thanks to lessons learned from Vista.
    A while ago I installed the last pre-release of W7 on my 7 year old Toshiba laptop that used to have XP on it. My brief experience with it was pleasing.
    Today I have been using my Toshiba, removed a Linux distro I was trying out and installed just XP for my friend to use. The IE8 windows update was a bit of a scare when the Toshiba appeared to freeze for a long time. It has just now turned out to be W8 being installed, a reboot and W8 continuing installation with an icon and taskbar free desktop backround showing for along time again until completed.

    I'd like to think that Security Essentials was created my Microsoft to overcome Windows operating systems' poor security and not a drive to put AV and Firewall companies out of business. However I've seen Microsoft hit or takeover some independents' software such as video editors and buying out Skype.
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