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    Partitions

    I am running Ubuntu 12.10 Gnome on a IBM T60 laptop. It has a 60 GB hard drive.
    I had to install it so that it took the whole HD as I had it so messed up that was the only way I could get it to install.
    Is there any program or way that I can partition part of this drive
    so that I can install another OS?
    I want to be able to boot and select which one I want to use and I don't want to loose what I already have installed.
    I was thinking of something like the old Partition Magic in Windows.

    Thanks
    John

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    Re: Partitions

    you could use gparted to partition the drive down further but keep in mind that normally when windows is installed AFTER ubuntu, it will overwrite the MBR and install it's own bootloader. not to mention windows has to be installed in a primary partition not a logical one. what I would do is make a 20gb of unallocated space BEFORE ubuntu using gparted, which is where you'll install Windows, it will format the unallocated space for you. Afterwards you'll have to use a tool to reinstall grub so you can then boot into either windows or ubuntu

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    Re: Partitions

    I don't want to install Windows, I was going to install another version of Linux. Maybe Wine or Fedora.
    I have been playing around with this for a few day.

    I bought the laptop just to run Linux on but want to find which one I like the best. I was running Ubuntu back in 2006 (ver. 6.06)and liked the way it docked programs but it seems that they had to change that.
    It's a whole new world now days. I guess we have to take the good with the bad.
    I have GParted loaded but it didn't seem to want to do what I wanted to do.
    I will look at your blog.

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    Re: Partitions

    You cannot use gparted from your running system, best to use liveCD, either Ubuntu which has gparted or the separate gparted liveCD or partedmagic which is also gparted and some other tools.

    GParted partitioning software - Full tutorial
    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
    Screenshots of using gparted
    http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted

    http://partedmagic.com/
    http://gparted.sourceforge.net/faq.php

    If just testing you can use 10GB. Or if you think you may want to dual boot create a separate data partition for some data also.

    You will have to keep track of which systems boot loader is in the MBR and then is in control. Ubuntu installs to sda by default, manual install gives a choice on where to install grub2's boot loader.
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair - Updated Mar 2015:
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    Re: Partitions

    if you just want to test out different distos most will run from a usb stick and load into RAM or if you really want to install another linux distro, the installer should present you an option to install along side your current ubuntu install. if it doesn't, use a live cd and gparted to shrink dowm your current partition and leave some unallocated space.

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    Re: Partitions

    I highly reccommend burning a copy of Boot Repair BEFORE messing
    with your disk partitions...

    go here:

    http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/

    I had to learn the hard way!!!

    Tommy
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    Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS, Debian 7.7 Wheezy, Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca, Fedora 21
    my new & improved web page http://users.gilanet.com/~tfrost

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    Re: Partitions

    Ok If I do this and install Fedora on the created partition will both OS's be set up on the MBR?

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    Re: Partitions

    There is only one MBR per hard drive.

    With Ubuntu, it usually finds other installs, adds them to the grub menu, and allows you to boot them.

    With Fedora the default install uses LVM. Some have had issues resolved by adding the lvm2 driver in Ubuntu and mounting the Fedora partition before running:
    sudo update-grub

    Some suggest not using the default LVM with Fedora, as with the multi-boot and other systems outside the LVM, it just adds complexity without any of the advantages of LVM.

    Not sure how Fedora handles finding other system to boot. Always good or have Boot-Repair or know how to easily reinstall grub2's boot loader to the MBR.

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...tallingWindows
    How to restore the Ubuntu/XP/Vista/7 bootloader (Updated for Ubuntu 9.10 - grub2) - talsemgeest
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...ta/7Bootloader
    Reinstall grub2 - Short version & full chroot version
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gr...alling%20GRUB2
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    Re: Partitions

    Ok Here is what I am going try.
    I have GParted on a CD Rom and I am going re-size the partition.
    Probably divide it equally. Then install Fedora on that new partition. Then if it doesn't boot to either I will run the Ubuntu Live and the run

    set it to boot from CD in the BIOS
    I don't quite understand the following.
    " reboot your computer and set it to boot from CD in the BIOS and boot into a live session. "
    I have seen when loading Ubuntu an option to TRY Ubuntu. I am assuming that is what is meant by running it live but the part about "to boot from CD in the BIOS" I am not quite sure of.

    Now if this fails and I get no where would it be better to install Fedora first and then Ubuntu?
    Also is there a way to format both partitions?
    I have tried to reload Ubuntu and Fedora in the past and ended up with two of each on the hard drive but only being able to access one of the four.
    This whole exercise is for me to learn a bit more about Linux. I started using it on and off in 1995. That was when Red Hat was King of the hill. I'm not a young person but do like to keep the mind active. I really appreciate the help you are giving me.
    I write very basic web pages but ones that work and I make my living at that with the ads I run. That's where I spend most of my time.
    http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com is the main page and that one get between 6000 to 7000 hits a day. It has a very high Google ranking. But winter is just around the corner and up here it can be a bit nasty outside so I was looking for something to keep me busy. So if I have to load the system several times, it is just time that I loose.
    I did notice once that when I loaded Mint is made a boot listing that showed every thing on the HD. If all else fails maybe I will load Mint after Fedora.

    Thanks
    John

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    Re: Partitions

    BIOS lets you set what device to boot from. CD, which hard drive, other devices.

    Often newer computers have a one time boot key where you can select CD, and then in BIOS you just set default to Hard drive so it does not have to look at CD drive and not find a CD then go to hard drive.

    From gparted you can format partitions, but the installers usually want to reformat anyway.

    Booting liveCD should give two options, one is try system so you can check that all your hardware works and learn a bit about system, the other is install.

    My Dad was from Kingston NS. Went to visit Grandma back in '50s but have not been there since. Most relatives now gone.
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