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This thread is so full of misinformation, that it isn't even funny. The only thing that is sent to Canoical are searches in the dash. All you have to do if you don't like this happening is turn off the Amazon search in System Settings -> Privacy.
Search in the dash, uses zeitgiest (which doesn't send keystrokes anywhere) to make searching for items that you've accessed since installing, much easier.
What I'd like to see, is some wireshark logs showing the keystrokes being sent to anywhere, instead of just unsubstantiated claims that the blogger can't back up. It looks to me like this is another case of making wild claims without backing them up, just to get page reads.
Last edited by teslasmoustache; October 23rd, 2012 at 04:01 AM.
blegh. That looks really hard to read. sorry.
IP addresses and search terms.
Unless there's something else I'm missing. Let me know.
That is to say, if I install shopping-lens, even as part of a metapackage like ubuntu-desktop, should I not have a pop-up (if in Synaptic or Software Center) or a text message with yes/no option (if in aptitude or apt-get) stating the policy and asking if I agree to it?
If I answer no, the shopping-lens package doesn't get installed.
If I answer yes, I've gone into the arrangement with both eyes open and have nothing to complain about.
I didn't have much of an issue with search terms being sent to Canonical and from there sent to Amazon, since I was under the impression that doing so would essentially make the request anonymous from Amazon's end (all searches appearing to originate from Canonical). That type of system would allay my concern over Amazon or another vendor deciding that my searches were in some way outside the bounds.
Maybe Canonical doesn't have any intention to do anything of the sort. If so, the wording is unfortunate and prone to misinterpretation, and needs to be corrected.
That seems to me to be a problem with Canonical recently: attempting to communicate or implement a basically good or useful idea in a way that leads to a backlash. That could have been easily avoided by clear and transparent communication, especially before implementing the changes.
Or to phrase it another way, re:
No, I do not.By searching in the dash you consent to:
- the collection and use of your search terms and IP address in this way; and
- the storage of your search terms and IP address by Canonical and such selected third parties (if applicable).
By consenting knowingly to an agreement I've been made aware of beforehand, I consent to said agreement. Tucking a legal notice in the far corner of the Dash that tells me I consented to Canonical doing the above by the act of searching, apparently even before this notice was published, does not equal my giving informed consent to anything.
Here, in a nutshell, is the problem: presenting this idea to the community ahead of time would probably have gone over fairly well.
Canonical could have said to the Ubuntu community, "Hey, we're working hard to bring you a fairly awesome GNU/Linux distro. We'd love it if you'd help us out a bit by occasionally searching for stuff on Amazon through the Dash, because we've designed a way to do that where we get some affiliate money if you buy something you found through the Dash."
At that point, I'm fairly certain people would have said, "Sure, I can help out if I'm shopping there anyway, that's cool."
Presenting it as a fait accompli makes it look as if Canonical is hiding something, even if they're not.
What's worse is that this legal notice of data storage is apparently a legal requirement in the U.K. and was implemented after this was pointed out by a member of the community. In other words, it comes across as an forced afterthought rather than an initial free choice to be completely open with the user base.
The initial force behind Ubuntu's rise to popularity was twofold: ease of installation and use, and the feeling of community fostered by the ideals summed up in the word "ubuntu" itself: community, honesty, integrity, sharing.
On the first point, many distros are at least as easy to install as Ubuntu, and a good number are arguably easier to use, given Unity's uphill struggle. So it really isn't a compelling hook to bring in new users or keep present ones.
So the uniqueness of Ubuntu boils down to the sense that it espouses the beliefs it is named after. Fumbling that impression away with bad presentation, bad implementation and/or a failure to communicate is a horribly bad idea.
As I said, if you don't like the shopping lens, either turn it off, or uninstall it. It's your computer, to do what you want with it. You aren't stuck with the defaults at any time.
From someone who is an average, casual computer consumer who doesn't read every release note on updates, and is absolutely new to Ubuntu and Linux, I had no idea this was in place.
I ran across a bunch of articles lately about Windows 8 vs Ubuntu 12.10, so I gave in and figured why not.
I can't stand Amazon. I have my own personal reasons. It's not privacy issues or anything. I despise the company, I had a very huge ordeal with them and my seller account a year or so back and they made an absolute mess out of the situation. Since then, I want nothing to do with the company.
Then I find out my information is being collected and sent to them. Regardless of what information it is, or how limited, I want nothing to do with it. And this feature should -absolutely- not be an automatically opted-in, or "Opt-Out Only" feature. Incredible.
I was loving my time with Ubuntu, and was really trying to learn the system. I had started a blog about my process of switching and had even donated my would-be $100~ Windows 8 money to a few FOSS companies I felt would make my transition to Ubuntu easier.
And I literally just done uninstalling Ubuntu.
For the average consumer, and one who cares about privacy, why bother with this? I know most people here won't share the view, but that's why there's such growing pains and lack of expansion, among other things.