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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Quote Originally Posted by 4partee View Post
    Rotak;
    What is a CI-slot?

    What is a smartcard?
    If that is what you call a cable card, you already know what a CI-Module is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CableCARD

    Depending on your provider, you'll also need a smartcard which goes into that module. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_card

    The MAG guys added support for a smartcard reader, and are using software (instead of a CI-Module) to decrypt the signal. I have absolutely no idea if that would work for you. I was only interested in how it works in USA.

    Sorry for not being helpful to solve your problem.

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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotak View Post
    If that is what you call a cable card, you already know what a CI-Module is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CableCARD

    Depending on your provider, you'll also need a smartcard which goes into that module. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_card

    The MAG guys added support for a smartcard reader, and are using software (instead of a CI-Module) to decrypt the signal. I have absolutely no idea if that would work for you. I was only interested in how it works in USA.

    Sorry for not being helpful to solve your problem.
    No worries.

    I am not using software to decrypt. The CableCard(that is what the cable company calls it) does the decryption. It plugs into a slot in the HDHR3-CC. The problem arises when the HDHR3 is prevented from placing the copy-protected content on the LAN.

    In the USA, there is an industry group(s) that has convinced our government to interfere with the pre-existing 'fair use' rights. The HDHR3 cannot output the content onto the LAN unless the receiving device is certified to enforce the restrictions. MythTV software is not certified.

    I could, however, use a CC ready television to view the content, or rent an STB to view the content or record it for later viewing. I would be prevented from transferring the content to a DVD, for example, as that would allow the content to be unrestricted.

    Right now, windows WMC is the only software that is approved to enforce the restrictions.

    John
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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    If you did get an HDPVR you'd be able to do what you like with the recordings. But as you say, only one channel per STB /HDPVR combination.

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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Quote Originally Posted by 4partee View Post
    No worries.

    I am not using software to decrypt. The CableCard(that is what the cable company calls it) does the decryption.
    That's bad.
    The MAG-solution only works with SmartCards, because most European TV networks only send you a SmartCard and require your STB (or a CI-module) to support the encryption mechanism.

    But if I look at these URLs, I fear you are doomed:
    http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/CableCARD
    http://www.ronfrazier.net/mythtv/cci/index.php


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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    2nd Heads up...........................

    Went in to effect 12/10/2012.

    http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Xfinity...AM/m-p/1441139

    Got a HDprime for xmas so I'm ready for it.
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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Quote Originally Posted by nativehound View Post
    2nd Heads up...........................

    Went in to effect 12/10/2012.

    http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Xfinity...AM/m-p/1441139

    Got a HDprime for xmas so I'm ready for it.
    are you? It will depend what copy flags are placed on your transmissions.

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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Quote Originally Posted by nickrout View Post
    are you? It will depend what copy flags are placed on your transmissions.

    I should be fine. Don't really record much, its more about viewing convenience.
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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Quote Originally Posted by nativehound View Post
    I should be fine. Don't really record much, its more about viewing convenience.
    For copy once flagged viewing you won't even be able to waych live tv.

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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    Has anyone made a list of cable companies that are not encrypting all their transmissions?
    My provider, Wide Open West removed all the encryption on the basic channels so it is a straight QAM single. Still need a cable card or box for other channels though.

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    Re: FCC Allows Cablecos to Eliminate Clear QAM.......

    I just received my written 30 day notice from COMCAST, they will encrypt the basic QAM channels on March 12, 2013.
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