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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by vasa1 View Post
    I'm sorry. This type of argument of guilt by association can be taken to ridiculous extents. Think about it.
    Basically, instead leading proper lives voluntarily, we're trying to remove temptations from our path.
    I have thought about it. I do not want Unity doing a pre-browse for me especially in this experimental stage. There is no telling what might slip through. Look what happened to Pete Townsend for just 'looking'. In fact I think the current Unity PreBrowser search is a security risk.

    Simple solution? Make those lenses optional from the repos, not default.
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by philinux View Post
    This is going downhill. Please raise a bug ubuntu-bug unity-lens-shopping or sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping.

    Done.

    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...g/+bug/1058087
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by vasa1 View Post
    Blogger outrage is so tiresome. It's not "Ubuntu". Get the terms right. As the other posters have explained, you get what you searched for because there's isn't yet an alogrithm to screen for "% flesh". Or are you saying there is one but "Ubuntu" isn't using it?
    On top of my head I can think of a couple of plenty filter algorithms that have been shown to work.
    a) I bet Amazon itself does have a filter against NSFW results. If it doesn't then that really makes me doubt they were a good choice for this in the first place. So simply make the search use this filter.
    b) Google search has like a 99% success rate. Thus a intelligent search that avoids results is possible.
    c) Add a "Report inapropriate result" button. Ban results that get reported. This needs a work force but has worked in things like blogger.

    The matter at hand is that when Canonical and Shuttleworth fantasized about turning unity into the gateway to the whole world, it seems they may have forgotten that search is a terribly non-trivial problem. It is no surprise Google went from a college project to a multi-billion monster that could by my country if it wanted. Because they could do search right. A NSFW filter is as basic a feature you can get in web searches. If even this basic feature is too costly or difficult for a small company like Canonical they will probably need to give up on the whole unity=search idea...
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    I looked really hard but could not see any more nudity than what I see at the beach and there are plenty of little kids running around there.

    Sometimes I wonder...

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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by mips View Post
    I looked really hard but could not see any more nudity than what I see at the beach and there are plenty of little kids running around there.

    Sometimes I wonder...
    Just go to the movie lens, type in 'marilyn' and , voila' ! Art or nude porn?


    I mean if you get that from just typing in a persons name , what else do you think is on the stack?

    *note*

    Only seems to work in Quantal Beta 2.

    *edit*

    No .. it brings up the nude pic after you close the dash and turn it back on again. It remembers where you left off.
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    So how many tries, and how long did it take both of you, goldsniper and ventrical to come up with an image of a nude?

    BTW, the moie linked to the Marilyn Munroe image is a spanish language documentary about her life and times, I didn't watch the whole thing, but the only nudity I saw, was a picture of a calendar that I've seen many times before.

    To me this is mostly a blogger trying to get more page views, as he really hasn't done anything else. He hasn't contacted Canonical, he didn't create a bug, all he did was post a link to his blog.

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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by cariboo907 View Post
    So how many tries, and how long did it take both of you, goldsniper and ventrical to come up with an image of a nude?

    BTW, the moie linked to the Marilyn Munroe image is a spanish language documentary about her life and times, I didn't watch the whole thing, but the only nudity I saw, was a picture of a calendar that I've seen many times before.

    To me this is mostly a blogger trying to get more page views, as he really hasn't done anything else. He hasn't contacted Canonical, he didn't create a bug, all he did was post a link to his blog.

    I typed in 'marilyn' in the movie lens (first time) using quantal Beta 2. The nude pic was at top of the stack. I am not trying to change policy or anything. I am just adding my opinion as is everyone else. I too have seen that nude pic before , but not on my PC using the existing desktop. I had to search through a browser and , although not looking for it specifically, it would often come up in side snippets while watching news articles. This whole issue is a horse of a different colour IMHO. I help others (grade 1 school teachers) make a transition from Windows to Ubuntu Precise using Unity 2D. I haven't tested those lenses yet but some of the clients I work with will be a little bit shocked that the Unity Lenses are producing these pics.


    I also filed a bug (as suggested by Phillinux) What good will it do? Really !?
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Yep .. same thing with Unity 2D Precise Pangolin. I dunno .. I'm in Canada here and it is tough enough to convince people to make a transition over to Ubuntu let alone Edubuntu. One good thing is that I now know that some of the lenses are pre-browsing (which is a good thing) All the browsers potentially can bring up a nude pic. I am not singling out Unity or Ubuntu. I had just thought that Ubuntu held itself to a higher bar.
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    Quote Originally Posted by effenberg0x0 View Post
    FOSS is wonderful, Ubuntu is great and so is Canonical. But I think we should drop the "use something else" approach when things are just wrong. This is wrong.

    We're used to the idea of seeing things we may not want to see (or we may not want our kids to see) when we turn on the TV, when we browse the web, when we go to to any store, etc. That's another problem, another companies to blame, a part of modern life. But IMO no one should be under the slightest risk of seeing stuff they don't want to when looking for a document.

    Sure, one can uninstall a package, use Super+A (Search Applications), Super+F (Search files), maybe even block specific network traffic and domains. We can also trow the old "This is FOSS - you're free to go use something else". This last one is vicious IMO.

    And, although everyone will run to say that those are not ads, they are. Someone here (I think it was Vexorian) made it very clear. What do we call intrusive content, with price tags, that show in our screen when we were clearly not actively looking for them? Ads.

    But it doesn't matter. What matters is that this was thrown in with no consideration whatsoever on the effects it could have on the users, their families, work environments. The community played no part in it, as it is becoming more and more usual. We didn't even understand how it came in apparently after the freeze.

    I don't want to be a part of the anti-everything group. I love FOSS, I like Ubuntu, it's been a part of my personal and professional life for years. I like Unity. I respect Canonical for all the money and work they put into this. I believe there are viable business models to fund FOSS. It's OK to make money with it. But the way things are being done is just wrong.

    Being very explicit, the way Canonical is doing things is wrong. I don't see a strong Community Council, thinking about the community. I don't see a strong technical board. I don't see the whole "supreme dictator for life" as something funny anymore. This is a professional OS - we should act accordingly.

    We must feel free enough to accept that this was wrong, openly discuss it. And not tell users to use something else.

    Sorry for the rant.

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    Nice rant effenberg.! +1
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    Re: Nudity in Shopping Lens

    I have to wonder where all the people complaining about this were in 12.04, maybe even 11.10
    The 2 Ex. mentioned here have nothing really to do with the shopping-lens, you can see the same results for both in 12.04

    So if you have issue with what is on cd or video covers/thumbnails & the fact the ubuntuone music store, youtube, Amazon, ect. display them then take up there.
    Or remove all the lens/scopes that display them.

    Do note that the suggestion of removing the shopping lens to prevent any of this is incorrect. Amazon & ubuntuone music are also in scopes, you'll have To do more than just remove that lens packages

    If ubuntu allowed filtering & persistent filtering of all lens/scopes that returned online results that would slightly lesson some objections
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