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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by joey-elijah View Post
    It'd be helpful if you folks could see if the slider/main page load on your CPU is better, worse, or the same @ http://d0od.staging.wpengine.com/ (Do stay on the main page as posts are linked to their production server equivalents).

    Then look again on omgchrome.com.

    OMG! Chrome! & OMG! Ubuntu! use the same themes/configs but the Chrome site gets updates/changes first. (chrome staging -> chrome production -> omgubuntu production
    In my case, the CPU load is much better on http://d0od.staging.wpengine.com/. Chromium stays around 7-9%. On omgchrome.com, it throttles up again (just as it does on OMGUbuntu) to somewhere in a range of 27-50%.
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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by joey-elijah View Post
    It'd be helpful if you folks could see if the slider/main page load on your CPU is better, worse, or the same @ http://d0od.staging.wpengine.com/ [...]

    Then look again on omgchrome.com.
    Day n' night difference here!

    CPU usage went from 90%-ish => 20%-ish




    ** Just realized: The "wrench icon" HAS been replaced (ver 23.x) per the article on the OMGChrome homepage.


    To add context, here are some stats from my setup...

    Code:
    vindsl@Zuul:~$ echo && echo "~ VinDSL Unity Debug Script 12.9.30 (vindsl.com) ~" && echo -n "Current Date/Time: " && date && echo -n "Distro Release: " && lsb_release -sd && echo -n "Kernel Release: " || cat /etc/*release && uname -s -r && echo -n "Unity Release: " && unity --version && echo && /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p -f && echo || echo && dpkg -s mesa-utils && echo || echo && echo "Xserver Xorg Core Branch:" && apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core | grep Installed && echo || echo && echo "Tree Map of PCI Devices:" && lspci -tv && echo || echo && echo "Display Properties:" && echo -n " lcd monitor:    Dell UltraSharp 1907FP (analog input)" && echo  && xdpyinfo | grep -E '(resolution|dimensions)' && echo
    
    ~ VinDSL Unity Debug Script 12.9.30 (vindsl.com) ~
    Current Date/Time: Sun Sep 30 10:11:53 MST 2012
    Distro Release: Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
    Kernel Release: Linux 3.6.0-030600rc7-generic
    Unity Release: unity 6.6.0
    
    OpenGL vendor string:   NVIDIA Corporation
    OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7600 GT/AGP/SSE2
    OpenGL version string:  2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.51
    
    Not software rendered:    yes
    Not blacklisted:          yes
    GLX fbconfig:             yes
    GLX texture from pixmap:  yes
    GL npot or rect textures: yes
    GL vertex program:        yes
    GL fragment program:      yes
    GL vertex buffer object:  yes
    GL framebuffer object:    yes
    GL version is 1.4+:       yes
    
    Unity 3D supported:       yes
    
    Package: mesa-utils
    Status: install ok installed
    Priority: optional
    Section: x11
    Installed-Size: 132
    Maintainer: Ubuntu X-SWAT <ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com>
    Architecture: i386
    Source: mesa-demos
    Version: 8.0.1+git20110129+d8f7d6b-0ubuntu2
    Replaces: xbase-clients (<< 6.8.2-38)
    Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libx11-6
    Description: Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
     This package provides several basic GL utilities built by Mesa, including
     glxinfo and glxgears.
    Homepage: http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/
    
    Xserver Xorg Core Branch:
      Installed: 2:1.13.0+git20120920.70e57668-0ubuntu0ricotz
    
    Tree Map of PCI Devices:
    -[0000:00]-+-00.0  Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Memory Controller Hub
               +-01.0-[01]----00.0  NVIDIA Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT]
               +-06.0  Intel Corporation 82875P/E7210 Processor to I/O Memory Interface
               +-1d.0  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1
               +-1d.1  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2
               +-1d.2  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3
               +-1d.3  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4
               +-1d.7  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller
               +-1e.0-[02]----0c.0  Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX
               +-1f.0  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge
               +-1f.2  Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller
               +-1f.3  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller
               \-1f.5  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
    
    Display Properties:
     lcd monitor:    Dell UltraSharp 1907FP (analog input)
      dimensions:    1280x1024 pixels (339x271 millimeters)
      resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
    
    vindsl@Zuul:~$

    Chromium Version 23.0.1271.1 Ubuntu 12.10 (157674)

    Last edited by VinDSL; September 30th, 2012 at 06:22 PM. Reason: Addendum
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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by joey-elijah View Post
    It'd be helpful if you folks could see if the slider/main page load on your CPU is better, worse, or the same @ http://d0od.staging.wpengine.com/ (Do stay on the main page as posts are linked to their production server equivalents).

    Then look again on omgchrome.com.
    There's a very noticeable improvement. On a AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE @ 3.9GHz and a Nvidia GTS450 I usually have Xorg oscillating around 1.5% and chrome/chromium around 1% CPU% in top when browsing. OMGUbuntu gets Xorg up to 50% and chrome/chromium to 90%+. OMGChrome is driving XOrg up to to 10-20% and chrome/chromium up to 25%. Although it is still a heavier load than usual, it keeps the Dash usable and the desktop still snappier enough.

    Thanks @stoneguy for pushing this to the right people and @joey-elijah for the agile feedback.

    Regards,
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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    wpengine's load peaks at 15%. It only has 2 horses on its carousel, which might account for better performance than omgubuntu. With javascript blocked wpengine is down around 1-2.

    omgchrome doesn't doisplay the carousel at all right now, even with javascript allowed, so usage is down in the background noise.

    Glad I could be of assistance. Pre-retirement, I usually ended up being one of the go-to guys for fault isolation. Good to see I haven't lost it.
    /Guy

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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Sorry to bump a 2-week old thread, but just wanted to let you folks know that a "fixed" banner has landed on OMG! Ubuntu!. Feel free to let me know if it still (quite literally) sucks.

    Double check that you are getting the new banner by looking at the 'hardware' icon of the first post on the page. It should be a white plug and not a grey laptop.
    OMG! Ubuntu!
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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by joey-elijah View Post
    Sorry to bump a 2-week old thread, but just wanted to let you folks know that a "fixed" banner has landed on OMG! Ubuntu!. Feel free to let me know if it still (quite literally) sucks.

    Double check that you are getting the new banner by looking at the 'hardware' icon of the first post on the page. It should be a white plug and not a grey laptop.

    That page now (and banner) are working just excellently.(fresh Quantal RC install(32bit)

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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by joey-elijah View Post
    Sorry to bump a 2-week old thread, but just wanted to let you folks know that a "fixed" banner has landed on OMG! Ubuntu!. Feel free to let me know if it still (quite literally) sucks.

    Double check that you are getting the new banner by looking at the 'hardware' icon of the first post on the page. It should be a white plug and not a grey laptop.
    Working great here, too! Nice work.
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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    And we have learned the importance and value of noscript, now.

    Because really, dedicating 20 percent of your computer to useless fluff on an already incredibly bloated and bogged-down website is at best silly.

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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncellor View Post
    And we have learned the importance and value of noscript, now.

    Because really, dedicating 20 percent of your computer to useless fluff on an already incredibly bloated and bogged-down website is at best silly.
    It was a bug that has now been fixed. NoScript would prevent such bugs from bothering those using it, but at the expense of eliminating all of the functional and beautiful uses of JavaScript out there. It's overkill, IMO.

    I don't generally buy it that "useless fluff" is silly, anyway -- or maybe I'm just denying that it's useless in the first place. I like interfaces that are beautiful, fun, and easy to use. JavaScript often facilitates that. You are free to disable it, of course, just like you are free to disable effects in in your desktop environment or window manager, to work only at the command line, and so on. But it is going overboard to suggest that anyone who does otherwise is behaving in a way that is "at best silly," and to cite one incident of buggy code as evidence.

    EDIT: Not to mention Javascript often makes using the web faster, e.g., by preloading material or loading/displaying information quickly without having to load new pages.
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    Re: Maby I'm going senile -but really cool min-effect now

    Quote Originally Posted by jrog View Post
    It was a bug that has now been fixed. NoScript would prevent such bugs from bothering those using it, but at the expense of eliminating all of the functional and beautiful uses of JavaScript out there. It's overkill, IMO.

    I don't generally buy it that "useless fluff" is silly, anyway -- or maybe I'm just denying that it's useless in the first place. I like interfaces that are beautiful, fun, and easy to use. JavaScript often facilitates that. You are free to disable it, of course, just like you are free to disable effects in in your desktop environment or window manager, to work only at the command line, and so on. But it is going overboard to suggest that anyone who does otherwise is behaving in a way that is "at best silly," and to cite one incident of buggy code as evidence.

    EDIT: Not to mention Javascript often makes using the web faster, e.g., by preloading material or loading/displaying information quickly without having to load new pages.
    You misunderstand both me and Noscript users. The point of noscript is to allow those beautiful interfaces shine and functionality behave far better than with allowing all those useless (and often scary) external scripts running. Take a look at how much of their site actually has useful content on first load:

    http://imgur.com/k2p88

    So yeah, you get to stare at two iterations of the same garbage that's filling up the page halfway down. It's useless fluff. Ajax? Awesome. Preloading? Awesome. Slideshows of content already presented? Amateur and, as seen, wasteful. I have seen many threads like this asking about the performance issues that this site has. For years, it's always been some out-of-control javascript.

    Gradients and trendy html5 CSS does not equal elegance. Good design is elegance. Had to fix a machine running OSX 10.4 today. It's ugly as hell but it's just as elegant as it was years ago.
    Last edited by Chauncellor; October 18th, 2012 at 03:52 AM.

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