The whole performance regression is a terrible thing and it makes the whole ubuntu idea pointless. If we can't even be faster than windows then we are into a world of suck. Performance used to be a selling point.
Every release has had a list of things to focus. So, I don't believe it makes sense to disagree on this only because of the 'focus' aspect.
I would bet you ten dollars that if I made this thread after 12.10 is released I would be replies like "it is already decided what it will be about so this is pointless".Originally Posted by codingman
I prefer to get the "12.10 hasn't even been released yet" excuse.
12.10 already is slower and features have been freezed so...
I am trying to make a pair of scripts that toggle between compnzi unity and unity-2d.I normally log in to 3D but like knowing that I can log in to 2D.
Code:#!/bin/sh metacity --replace & sleep 2s unity-2d-panel & unity-2d-shell &So, it seems possible to move from one unity to the other without closing other programs. But it is sort of messy.Code:#!/bin/sh pkill unity-2d compiz --replace &
Switching from unity-2d to unity-3d works well, the other does not really work that well. Something bugs out about the window borders. But the launcher and menu bar are present so any full screen app can be launched and once launched you don't care about title bars, I guess.
Hopefully I'll found out a way to fix this glitch.
The idea to remove unity-2D looks more and more of a misidirection every day.
So, without feedback how do you expect UDS-R to have any perspective on what to decide?Exactly. Despite what is posted here, 13.04 will focus on whatever comes out of UDS-R, i.e. a number of things as yet undecided.
Before they decide, Let them keep in mind that compiz has been getting slower (This has been benchmarked by a verifiable source, so not a matter of opinion) when it should have been getting faster. That it has become a handicap making it even less likely for unity to become accepted. That it is making ubuntu less competitive against other ubuntu remixes, Linux distros and proprietary OSes. And that there is no reason to believe there is no room for optimization.
Windows 8 and Mountain Lion are both flashy and stuff without making performance drop terribly. So...but if we don't the bloat the os with flash and flare then all the hipsters will still use windows
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If you are so dead-set on getting the attention of the developers, try using the mailing lists or launchpad, as they rarely read the forums.
i don't recommend complaining to launchpad or the mailing lists at all. the targeted audience is obviously not the oldfags, like myself, or the power users. you may want to install the server and then install a DE of choice. blackbox and openbox are good choices IMHO, or you may prefer something like lxde or xfce. then you can invest your complaining to developers and likeminded users that support your hopes and dreams of not wasting all of your cpu on a spinning cube and panels with a mind of their own
Fix the heat issue.
Laptops are melting out there.
Nobody likes an OS that kills their laptop.
I hear ya bro. This is the main reason I'm hesitant to install Ubuntu on my main laptop. Every full-sized laptop I've had Ubuntu on since Breezy Badger has run very hot. And two of them have had a shorter than expected lifespan. I can't prove that broke them, but I'm pretty sure laptops shouldn't run as hot as they often do with Ubuntu. I'm not too bothered if one of my old netbooks burns out (both a running hot with Ubuntu, but ok with Windows). I'm not prepared to take that risk with my i5 though.
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I think they should work on the performance as well. After using Xfce for a few years Gnome and Unity just seem heavy. Sure Xfce is meant to be more lightweight, but it does have built in compositing, which can easily be turned off if you need the 3d performance for a game or whatever.
Do you folks like coffee?
I'm sticking with my Lucid Lynx until the bitter end... It has everything that I want and need. It's familiar to me (I know where everything is). It's built for a computer, not a touch screen tablet (I won't get a touch screen or tablet because I like my traditional, REAL keyboards and mice too much).
I started messing with Ubuntu since Intreped Ibex. I didn't get seriously interested until Jaunty Jackalope (which is STILL my favorite). But every new release has had it's pros and cons. I've never seen so many complaints as I've been seeing since the release of Unity. I'm glad I didn't follow everyone.
Once Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported, I think I'll have to move on to Xubuntu 12.04 because it's stayed similar to what I know and love about Linux and the Ubuntu family. I've already tried Precise Pangolin in a few different builds sitting around the house and was disappointed every time.
I'm going to sit back and wait for one of three things to happen:
1: They release 13 the same way Windows 7 was released. As an apologies for Vista. They've fixed everything and called it 7.
2: They release a new XFCE that incredibly, stays the same for us old farts who don't like the new Unity desktop environment.
3: Sadly, I'll have to move back to my pirated copy of Windows 7 and drop Linux all together because they've forgotten us