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  1. #1001
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    SI7012, KUBUNTU (any version) no sound...

    Help!
    The integrated sound card (an SI7012) refuses to make sound and I'm at wits end. The motherboard is a FoxConn,the O/S is Hardy Heron, all updates applied as of this writing.

    Here's what I have found...

    aplay -l results in;
    **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
    card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
    Subdevices: 0/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

    lspci -v returns ths following for the sound card...

    00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
    Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Unknown device 0c56
    Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 22
    I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
    I/O ports at e400 [size=128]
    Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2


    I note the "Unknown Device 0c56", however it does recognize it as an AC'97 Sound Controller.
    And this snippet is from lsmod...

    snd_pcm_oss 42144 0
    snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss
    snd_pcm 78596 5 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
    snd_seq_dummy 4868 0
    pcspkr 4224 0
    snd_seq_oss 35584 0
    snd_seq_midi 9376 0
    snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi
    snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
    button 9232 0
    snd_seq 54224 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_mid i_event
    snd_timer 24836 4 snd_pcm,snd_seq
    snd_seq_device 9612 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi ,snd_seq
    snd 56996 17 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_ oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy,snd_se

    So it 'sees the card, it 'recognizes' it as a sound controller, but it refuses to make any noise. I could go around the problem by installing a cheapie sound-blaster but that is really a non-solution because the MB is in a half-height case (need a half-height card) and it might be pushing the power-supply (only 250 Watts) to drive yet another (redundant even) sound card.

  2. #1002
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    Re: SI7012, KUBUNTU (any version) no sound...

    sbungay, the only thing I can think of is an IRQ issue that would require an option line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. Here is the documentation for that module:
    Code:
      Module snd-intel8x0
      -------------------
    
        Module for AC'97 motherboards from Intel and compatibles.
    			* Intel i810/810E, i815, i820, i830, i84x, MX440
    				ICH5, ICH6, ICH7, ESB2
    			* SiS 7012 (SiS 735)
    			* NVidia NForce, NForce2, NForce3, MCP04, CK804
    				 CK8, CK8S, MCP501
    			* AMD AMD768, AMD8111
    			* ALi m5455
    
        ac97_clock	  - AC'97 codec clock base (0 = auto-detect)
        ac97_quirk    - AC'97 workaround for strange hardware
    		    See "AC97 Quirk Option" section below.
        buggy_irq     - Enable workaround for buggy interrupts on some
                        motherboards (default yes on nForce chips,
    		    otherwise off)
        buggy_semaphore - Enable workaround for hardwares with buggy
    		    semaphores (e.g. on some ASUS laptops)
    		    (default off)
        spdif_aclink  - Use S/PDIF over AC-link instead of direct connection
    		    from the controller chip
    		    (0 = off, 1 = on, -1 = default)
    
        This module supports one chip and autoprobe.
    
        Note: the latest driver supports auto-detection of chip clock.
        if you still encounter too fast playback, specify the clock
        explicitly via the module option "ac97_clock=41194".
    
        Joystick/MIDI ports are not supported by this driver.  If your
        motherboard has these devices, use the ns558 or snd-mpu401
        modules, respectively.
    
        The power-management is supported.
    
    AC97 Quirk Option
    =================
    
    The ac97_quirk option is used to enable/override the workaround for
    specific devices on drivers for on-board AC'97 controllers like
    snd-intel8x0.  Some hardware have swapped output pins between Master
    and Headphone, or Surround (thanks to confusion of AC'97
    specifications from version to version :-)
    
    The driver provides the auto-detection of known problematic devices,
    but some might be unknown or wrongly detected.  In such a case, pass
    the proper value with this option.
    
    The following strings are accepted:
        - default	Don't override the default setting
        - none	Disable the quirk
        - hp_only	Bind Master and Headphone controls as a single control
        - swap_hp	Swap headphone and master controls
        - swap_surround  Swap master and surround controls
        - ad_sharing  For AD1985, turn on OMS bit and use headphone
        - alc_jack	For ALC65x, turn on the jack sense mode
        - inv_eapd	Inverted EAPD implementation
        - mute_led	Bind EAPD bit for turning on/off mute LED
    
    For backward compatibility, the corresponding integer value -1, 0,
    ... are  accepted, too.
    
    For example, if "Master" volume control has no effect on your device
    but only "Headphone" does, pass ac97_quirk=hp_only module option.

  3. #1003
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    Re: SI7012, KUBUNTU (any version) no sound...

    ahoii..hello there..uum i have a problem with my esi juli@ soundcard on ubuntu 8.04 hardy, which is there no sound came from it..i try every step from this thread..

    from 1st step aplay -l, result is :

    **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
    card 0: Juli [ESI Juli@], device 0: ICE1724 [ICE1724]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
    card 0: Juli [ESI Juli@], device 1: IEC1724 IEC958 [IEC1724 IEC958]
    Subdevices: 1/1
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

    and from 2nd step lspci -v

    00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
    Subsystem: Unknown device 3031:4553
    Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 22
    I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
    I/O ports at ef00 [size=128]
    Capabilities: <access denied>

    and i didnt find any esi juli@ related thingi..and i already uninstall n install alsa..n there is nothing came up, still no sound, or there is some setting from volume preferences??..please someone help me...

    ps: iam using spidf/ optical out

  4. #1004
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    Exclamation Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    Hello...

    This is my first ever post.

    I need help...



    Please see my story before my question.

    I decided to move to Ubunut about 2 days after 8.04 came out.

    So, I had the bleeding edge of Ubuntu.
    Now.
    I had ALOT of problems being a first time Ubuntu user.
    HOWEVER, I fixed MOST of them
    I had sound issues however. For about a week.
    I scouwerd the web..Many forums..
    Untill I found this one.
    It fixed my sound problems.
    ...
    ...
    ..
    I was estatic.
    I meant to leave you a thanks..

    Wellll

    I am one of the unfortunate Dial-up users...

    Soooo, when Ubuntu released an update not too long ago..

    I had to wait to go to a friends house to update...
    (The update was HUGEEEE, it would have taken me weeks to get it)
    So, upon updating...
    ..
    Sound ddint' work again..

    I got the SAME error I did when I first got Ubuntu

    "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured."

    Sooo, I came back here to try to solve my problem again...

    I didnt' work..
    The answer to my problem MAY be in this fourm..However...100+ pages is ALOT of wait for a meer dial-up user like myslef...

    PLEASE HELP

    I checked the ALSA Matrix thing.>
    I use the
    Intel8x0

    I am begging for help...

    No sound annoys me to NO EXTENT...

    Please...
    Please help.

  5. #1005
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    Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    adola, try this:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820959
    You'll have to modify the alsa_1.sh script with snd-intel8x0 instead of snd-hda-intel (Don't worry about alsa_2.sh)

    Also, here are some configuration options:
    Code:
    Module snd-intel8x0
      -------------------
    
        Module for AC'97 motherboards from Intel and compatibles.
    			* Intel i810/810E, i815, i820, i830, i84x, MX440
    				ICH5, ICH6, ICH7, ESB2
    			* SiS 7012 (SiS 735)
    			* NVidia NForce, NForce2, NForce3, MCP04, CK804
    				 CK8, CK8S, MCP501
    			* AMD AMD768, AMD8111
    			* ALi m5455
    
        ac97_clock	  - AC'97 codec clock base (0 = auto-detect)
        ac97_quirk    - AC'97 workaround for strange hardware
    		    See "AC97 Quirk Option" section below.
        buggy_irq     - Enable workaround for buggy interrupts on some
                        motherboards (default yes on nForce chips,
    		    otherwise off)
        buggy_semaphore - Enable workaround for hardwares with buggy
    		    semaphores (e.g. on some ASUS laptops)
    		    (default off)
        spdif_aclink  - Use S/PDIF over AC-link instead of direct connection
    		    from the controller chip
    		    (0 = off, 1 = on, -1 = default)
    
        This module supports one chip and autoprobe.
    
        Note: the latest driver supports auto-detection of chip clock.
        if you still encounter too fast playback, specify the clock
        explicitly via the module option "ac97_clock=41194".
    
        Joystick/MIDI ports are not supported by this driver.  If your
        motherboard has these devices, use the ns558 or snd-mpu401
        modules, respectively.
    
        The power-management is supported.
    OR, you could try OSS4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780961
    Last edited by Temüjin; June 17th, 2008 at 10:17 PM.

  6. #1006
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    Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    Oh, some more:
    Code:
    AC97 Quirk Option
    =================
    
    The ac97_quirk option is used to enable/override the workaround for
    specific devices on drivers for on-board AC'97 controllers like
    snd-intel8x0.  Some hardware have swapped output pins between Master
    and Headphone, or Surround (thanks to confusion of AC'97
    specifications from version to version :-)
    
    The driver provides the auto-detection of known problematic devices,
    but some might be unknown or wrongly detected.  In such a case, pass
    the proper value with this option.
    
    The following strings are accepted:
        - default	Don't override the default setting
        - none	Disable the quirk
        - hp_only	Bind Master and Headphone controls as a single control
        - swap_hp	Swap headphone and master controls
        - swap_surround  Swap master and surround controls
        - ad_sharing  For AD1985, turn on OMS bit and use headphone
        - alc_jack	For ALC65x, turn on the jack sense mode
        - inv_eapd	Inverted EAPD implementation
        - mute_led	Bind EAPD bit for turning on/off mute LED
    
    For backward compatibility, the corresponding integer value -1, 0,
    ... are  accepted, too.
    
    For example, if "Master" volume control has no effect on your device
    but only "Headphone" does, pass ac97_quirk=hp_only module option
    OR you could try OSS4

  7. #1007
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    Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    Ok, I'm going to try this...


    I'll be honest though...

    I don't know if I can do it.
    It looks kinda hard for a n00b such as myself...

    ~Crosses fingers~

  8. #1008
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    Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    This is getting rediculus..


    THIS is one of the main reasons Linux, or rather, Ubuntu isn't going to get popular...



    I can't fix sound.
    I have tried EVERYTHING
    I would PAY for someone to tell me what to do.

    If the great gods of ALSA or Ubuntu can't fix this friggin' problem...
    Then I don't see Ubuntu getting popular..

    And you know..
    Sound isn't my ONLY problem..
    3D applications flicker.
    I have an ATi Radeon x300 And apparently some..FLGXR or something like that drivers are NOT going to fix any problems.....


    You know...ATi is a PRETTY big brand of video cards...
    If Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box to accomodate these things...
    Then Windows will continue to rule.


    SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME.
    I have done EVERYTHING.

  9. #1009
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    Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    I installed Kubuntu 8.04 on my Sony Vaio VGN-NR160E. No sound was produced initially, then found in KMix the output channel 'Front' with a jack icon and raised volume level and I now have sound. Now the problem is even inserting a headphone to the jack still enables sound on my laptop's speakers (both headphone and built-in speakers have sound at the same time). Search the ubuntu forums but no clear fix found. Anyone found the tweak for this? Thanks

  10. #1010
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    Re: Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Number6 View Post
    My problem is the sharing of the soundcard! Why is it that some programs can share the card and others can't? for example if I'm playing an mp3 on xmms, Gaim's sounds still come through OK but if i run say xmame, no sound! and vice versa also (sound xmame,no sound xmms!!) Is there no way aound this other than alsa-oss? I always thought ALSA was supposed to address this issue..

    Im on amd64-64bit Ubuntu BTW
    I've always had the same problem with Ubuntu, even with a fresh install of Hardy. After watching a stremed video from BBC in firefox Amarok will no longer be able to play anything until I close both apps and start over. Has anyone figured out a way to make it easier for applications to share control of sound hardware?
    Keith
    Open.nfo

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