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    Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    This thread doesn't have any problem questions or anything, I just need to know if this is a good idea or not. I have windows 7 on my laptop(for gaming, not really much else) and I recently dual booted it with the windows 8 preview just to test it out. But Microsoft, the geniuses they are, decided it would be best if windows 8 was set as the default operating system after installation, which conflicted with some previous modifications I had made with win7 and thus made win7 unbootable. I am thinking about wiping the windows 8 partition and installing Ubuntu 10.10 on it, because I just find Linux so much easier and less frustrating than windows. I'm choosing ubuntu because I really don't have the time for slackware, and I'm thinking about copying all my personal files from my win7 partition to the ubuntu one(while expanding the Ubuntu partition in the process) and just make it the only partition on my computer. Does this sound like a good idea to you guys, or should I just keep searching for ways to make windows 7 boot again?

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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    There is nothing bad with the idea to use ubuntu as dual boot or as single OS. The end decision is up to you of course.

    I would only recommend not to use 10.10 (it's already out of support) and instead try the latest 12.04 LTS.

    The LTS means Long Term Support which in numbers means 5 years. So, you're good until April 2017.
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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    That is almost exactly what I'm doing currently as well (although with Windows XP and Kubuntu). I'm getting the parts for a new custom build this week, though, and will be upgrading my dual boot to Windows 7. Just like you, I still need a stable gaming platform, and dual-booting Windows and Ubuntu covers everything very nicely!

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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    Same for me, Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7, works perfectly unless you want to look into ext4 from Windows

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    The main things I would recommend beyond what the other replies say is to put as much storage into logical partitions as possible. Primary partitions are limited to 4 per HDD, but there is no real practical limit on the number of logical partitions a HDD can have.

    I often will install 5+ different OSes on a single eSATA dock connected HDD inside a 10G partition for each. My main desktop is only 13GB - though I keep all large data files on a different partition or on a network server.

    Using eSATA means performance from that device is just as fast as with internal SATA HDDs, since it is a dock, swapping HDDs is trivial, and since most HDDs here are 500GB or larger, having 50 OSes isn't too difficult, though having so many does raise other challenges. Most of the time, using KVM to virtualize an OS is more convenient, but for trying out desktops with graphics acceleration requirements demands a full boot test.

    Partition management is a lost art and Microsoft isn't making it any easier with their upcoming UEFI mandate.

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    I need Win 7 for gaming and school at present . Dual booting was a breeze for me because I built my desktop computer and didn't have deal with OEM partitions which can make installation more difficult. 10.10 is no longer supported so you may want chose a supported release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    I used to use dual boot but for the past year I've simply installed ubuntu and then virtualbox (which allows the installation and running of one or more virtual machines). I then created a new install within virtualbox of Windows 7 Enterprise and I can run them both concurrently. Windows-only progs in the Windows window and *nix progs in the native.

    Also I installed a Windows 7 theme onto my gnome desktop to make it look like Windows 7. Why you might ask? I wanted it all to look similar and no one is the wiser that I am running Linux as my primary OS.

    Good luck

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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    Jobbo, I've just dual booted Ubuntu 12.04LTS with Win7 using this guide here.

    http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17...and-windows-7/

    It was a breeze and the beauty of following this simple guide is that each operating system is protected against boot problems when big updates come in. Or at least, should be. And so far no problems and that's something that the default install for dual booting can't always guarantee. In other words you won't ever be in a situation where you cannot boot one or the other OS's if you follow the guide in the link.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Starfleet View Post
    Jobbo, I've just dual booted Ubuntu 12.04LTS with Win7 using this guide here.

    http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17...and-windows-7/

    It was a breeze and the beauty of following this simple guide is that each operating system is protected against boot problems when big updates come in. Or at least, should be. And so far no problems and that's something that the default install for dual booting can't always guarantee. In other words you won't ever be in a situation where you cannot boot one or the other OS's if you follow the guide in the link.

    Good luck.
    I don't agree with that link and keeping the windows bootloader on the MBR. While it is true that any windows reinstallation will overwrite grub2 on the MBR, I don't see that as big issue (and no one should), because you can reinstall it back with only two simple commands.

    On the other hand, forcing grub2 to install onto a partition instead of the MBR, can make grub2 break when there are updates for the package, and similar situations, which means even without totally reinstalling ubuntu. This is because grub2 doesn't fit on the Partition Boot Record and part of it needs to be put somewhere on the disk. During updates this location can change and the grub2 code on the PBR will keep looking at the old location, thus breaking grub2.

    On top of that, I see no reason to insist on keeping the bootloader that can't boot both OSs by default (windows bootloader) on the MBR, while forcing the bootloader that can boot both OSs in an unnatural position.
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    Re: Dual booting ubuntu/win7 opinions

    Yes, I see where you are coming from Darkod. But I've got to say that when I first dual booted with 12.04 in the "conventional" way allowing Ubuntu to do it's own thing, the first set of big updates that came in for Ubuntu broke the installation and it wouldn't boot. This included a new kernel amongst other things. I fixed it easily but the next day a big update for Windows came in and that broke Windows and it wouldn't boot. As the machine was going down to Exeter University with a novice in these matters I decided to use the guide above to avoid as much trouble as possible. I can say that once it was installed, the same updates came in again and neither system was affected in any way and both booted easily. No problem. So far it's been perfect...although running for just a few weeks now. But I'll be monitoring the situation. If it turns out not to be as good as many are saying, I'll change it.
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