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    Need to edit post

    I already did enough searching to find this:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...53&postcount=2

    Yes, we are only allowing edits to posts for 24 hours. This is a new policy.

    You have two options.

    #1 - I highly suggest you move your howto to the Ubuntu wiki. There is a script to automate the process (converts forms posts to wiki syntax).

    http://bodhizazen.net/tweaks/ubforums2ubwiki.sh.txt

    wiki has a number of advantages

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949027

    #2 Would be to ask a staff member to edit your post.
    I was contacted by someone recently about wikifying this thread:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370

    I have no problem with that but I'm unable to help with the process. Anyway, on to what I currently need edited.

    In step #8 of that post I'd recently made a change:

    Step #8:

    I found the overlay-scrollbars to be inconsistent and annoying in the classic DE and I'd previously recommended just removing them altogether but I believe I've found a much better way to disable them on a per-user basis. Simply run one command:

    Code:

    echo export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 >> ~/.xprofile

    Then just log out and log back in for that change to take effect.

    If you should later wish to revert that just run:

    Code:

    sed -i 's/^export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR.*/#&/' ~/.xprofile
    The reason for that is because I've encountered a few situations where multiple users use the same puter and each user may have different DE preferences; one user may want Unity w/overlay-scrollbars while another may want classic (no effects) w/o overlay-scrollbars, etc.

    No change needed there ATM but I'd like to change step #9 in the Oneiric version of that to reflect the same. Currently it says:

    Step #9: I found the overlay-scrollbars to be inconsistent and annoying in the classic DE so I removed them, but that was totally a matter of preference, and this is one of those steps that really seems to somewhat break Unity! Should you want to remove them run:

    Code:

    sudo apt-get purge liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-0 overlay-scrollbar

    Note: You'll likely have to reboot for that change to fully take effect.
    Is that understandable? ATM I do not wish to change anything here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370

    But step #9 here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886799

    Should reflect that same change

    Of course the step # needs to remain the same (I changed the order of some steps between Oneiric and Precise, and one less PPA is required).

    I wish I could help with the wiki but I simply lack the grey matter and the time

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    Re: Need to edit post

    done that, once it's a wiki there will be no need to post to get it edited of course

    I see it on our list.

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    Re: Need to edit post

    Thank you

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    Welcome - once the thread has been wikified we will let you know.

    For now I will close this thread.

    Thanks for the work you do kansasnoob.

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    I'm honestly wondering just how I'm going to proceed with changes like this in the future

    It literally took me months to cook up that classic (no effects) thing beginning here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870612

    Which resulted in this:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873765

    And then this:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886799

    Now I'm still working on the Precise version:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370

    I must say I don't like having to go through a middle man to edit a post, it feels like, "mother may I please ...."

    And I can be more than a little bit anal about small things. That edit is adequate but it does not exactly follow the proper format, eg;

    Step #8: It's also sometimes nice to display CPU and memory usage in the panel, so here's System Monitor Indicator:
    Step #9:
    I found the overlay-scrollbars to be inconsistent and annoying in the classic DE and I'd previously recommended just removing them altogether but I believe I've found a much better way to disable them on a per-user basis. Simply run one command:
    If I could just edit that myself the latter would be:

    Step #9: I found the overlay-scrollbars to be inconsistent and annoying in the classic DE and I'd previously recommended just removing them altogether but I believe I've found a much better way to disable them on a per-user basis. Simply run one command:
    It's not worth fussing over, and I guess most of the hard work is done on my Precise classic (no effects) thread, but with the proposed changes to ubiquity in Quantal this change is going to make it very difficult to post in a linear manner about those changes

    Here's another good example:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622388

    I'll bet I edited that 40 or 50 times!

    NO forum change should limit the ability to communicate with other users

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    Re: Need to edit post

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfy View Post
    Welcome - once the thread has been wikified we will let you know.

    For now I will close this thread.

    Thanks for the work you do kansasnoob.
    Whew ............. it looks like I beat the closing

    This change needs some rethinking!

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    Then use wiki.

    This thread is not going to rehash the same things that the other ones in here have done.

    There is a FC agenda here - add to it and turn up

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda

    Closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    This change needs some rethinking!
    I will re-open this thread for discussion of moving forward with the wiki.

    It does, but the re-thinking is on your part

    I understand it is a bit of a change, but we are there to help you. By we I mean 3 broad groups of people - Forums staff, wiki team, and documentation team.

    There is a bit of a learning curve to wiki syntax, but the syntax is not difficult. I have written a script that converts forums posts to wiki.

    Wiki is easy to edit and brings together 2 groups.

    One group of people is willing to assist, but is uncomfortable with the technical details.

    A second group has the technical knowledge, but is unfamiliar with wiki syntax.

    Join #ubuntu-wiki or #ubuntuforums for assistance.

    There is a link to a web client in my sig (as well as other staff) so using irc is easy enough.

    My point is, the effort to document works well and is colaborative.

    I know many who have been resistant to this change, but I do not know anyone who does not support wiki effort after taking time to reflect on the change AND actually giving the script I wrote and the wiki a try.

    As far as I know, those who have rejected the wiki effort have done so without trying the new system or contacting the wiki team for assistance.

    Example: This thread was met with the fierce resistance from the lubuntu community:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755

    Now that it has been converted

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LubuntuLinks

    If you check the page history, it has been edited by several members of the lubuntu community.

    New wiki page has a nice table of contents and can be maintained by a team, not a single individual.

    Even amjjawad supports the change, he is on a leave of absence so has not been able to contribute.

    Lubuntu wiki page is now used by the greater Ubuntu community, not just forums community.

    My point is, wiki works and works well.

    This is merely one more step in integrating the forums into the Ubuntu Community.
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    Many thanks for reopening this thread and apologies for taking so long to respond but I've been trying to squash a bug:

    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...t/+bug/1013334

    I'm Erick there and I've been iso-testing since Hardy or Intrepid. It all comes down to priorities doesn't it? In this case working on that bug took priority because we must be able to file bug reports reliably during a dev cycle.

    But back to this issue, I see the wikifying process and the inability to edit posts as two very separate issues. In my OP I even said:

    I was contacted by someone recently about wikifying this thread:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370

    I have no problem with that but I'm unable to help with the process.
    The word unable alludes to two things:

    #1: ability

    #2: time

    I'm fully aware that you address the ability issue as two groups of people:

    One group of people is willing to assist, but is uncomfortable with the technical details.

    A second group has the technical knowledge, but is unfamiliar with wiki syntax.
    But you left out one group of people, those who know their limitations and already have a full plate

    Regarding limitations I know that I'm prone to making mistakes due to an acquired brain injury, but I certainly don't feel worthless. There are however limitations.

    I've tried many times over several years to use IRC chat and I just can't. I wish I could ........... I'd ask Colin Watson what HIS plans are for QQ ubiquity

    Ultimately not being able to edit my existing posts will make it impossible for me to create posts that are worthy of becoming a wiki.

    No big deal to me, I'll still be able to figure things out. I just won't be able to share my very limited knowledge with others.

    BTW my neuropsych status was just downgraded from mild neurocognitive disorder to dementia, but it's NOT Alzheimer's. It's just the brain injury along with some overload ........... specifically taking on too much testing!

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    Re: Need to edit post

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    Regarding limitations I know that I'm prone to making mistakes due to an acquired brain injury, but I certainly don't feel worthless. There are however limitations.

    <snip>
    BTW my neuropsych status was just downgraded from mild neurocognitive disorder to dementia, but it's NOT Alzheimer's. It's just the brain injury along with some overload ........... specifically taking on too much testing!
    What I'm seeing is someone who is still able to contribute intelligently, in spite of (because of?) some potentially serious distractions. As I say to Mrs Lisati (long story short: she experienced a stroke last year), whatever contributions you are able to make ARE appreciated.
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