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    Drivers

    My Wi-Fi driver was missing from Ubuntu 12.04 disc.
    But ubuntu printed out for me where to get that driver.
    So why wasn't that driver on 12.04 when the existence of that driver was already discovered?

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    Re: Drivers

    I don't rightly know what you mean by "ubuntu printed out for me where to get that driver".
    Most drivers are built-in. If you needed one that wasn't there's a high probability you needed a proprietary driver, which are not bundled so as not to infringe on intellectual property.
    I'm thinking about it

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    Re: Drivers

    Oo i see now. So my Wi-Fi driver is not free driver.
    i did search in forum and yes, it's not free driver.
    But the driver is downloadable later atleast.

    However when i buy computer, why hardware maker won't include driver price together with final hardware price. Maybe they sell it included with Windows price and therefore it's unfair monopol (prohibited by law).
    It wouldn't be prblem to pay 20$ more for the computer if i get the pleasant user experience with it's usage.

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    Re: Drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Meelis View Post
    However when i buy computer, why hardware maker won't include driver price together with final hardware price.
    They DID include the driver -- for the OS that came installed in the computer!

    Maybe they sell it included with Windows price and therefore it's unfair monopol (prohibited by law).
    You are obviously NOT a lawyer or you wouldn't make such a ludicrous comment. These are technical forums, not legal forums.

    It wouldn't be prblem to pay 20$ more for the computer if i get the pleasant user experience with it's usage.
    You got with the computer what you paid for. If you intend to install something extra -- especially something for an OS not included with the computer -- the computer seller would have now way, in advance, of knowing what else to include -- now would they?
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    Re: Drivers

    Hi, welcome to the forum! Please open a terminal ctrl+alt+t copy and paste the following commands into it one line at a time, then paste the results here:

    Code:
    cat /etc/lsb-release; uname -a
    lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
    lsusb
    iwconfig
    rfkill list all
    lsmod
    by clicking on new reply and click # then paste the information between the brackets and we will see if we can help you.
    Thank you

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    Re: Drivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Meelis View Post
    But the driver is downloadable later atleast.
    .

    the driver is probably free as in free beer but not free as in libre. So the code for it is likely closed and distribution for it done by the makers of hardware (i.e. others are not allowed to tinker with it, change it or distribute it but they are allowed to use it).

    take for example ATI/nvidia windows drivers. you get them on a CD together with the graphics card/computer or you can download and install the latest ones from internet. but you can't make any changes to them and you can't distribuite them yourself.

    if they did a good job with the drivers then for the end user (in my opinion) it doesn't matter that much.
    Read the easy to understand, lots of pics Ubuntu manual.
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    Re: Drivers

    Sorry for late replay. The forum didn't load in FireFox 13.0.1

    @ wildmanne39
    I don't have the laptop with me. It was my fiends laptop who visited me.
    It was Fujitsu Siemens Amilo A1667G
    and manufacturer info about Wi-Fi lists:
    WLAN Gemtek WLAN IEEE802.11 b/g 13ch. Gemtek WMIB-160GW02EU20(LF). Broadcom Wireless LAN 802.11b / 802.11g. WN2302A mPCI WLAN IEEE802.11 b/g. WN2302A-F4 13ch. mPCI WLAN IEEE802.11 b/g (Atheros).

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    Re: Drivers

    @ mastablasta
    Ok i got your point.
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    When i buy new laptop, i take the model with Wi-Fi chipset that has free to distribute drivers.

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    Re: Drivers

    well they are freely distrubuted by broadcom as well as gemtek in yourcase. but not by others.
    And usually to get the wi-fi working all you need to do is connect to internet with a wire and then download the drivers via hardware drivers (or something like that) application. There might be some linux distribution that already include them. i am not sure about that. but you could have a look at distrowatch website if there are any. they might come with a price...

    I am not sure which ones are freely available. i have a PCIMCIA card from tp-link that is plug and play (i.e. driver is included in kernel, so no downloading).
    Read the easy to understand, lots of pics Ubuntu manual.
    Do i need antivirus/firewall in linux?
    Full disk backup (newer kernel -> suitable for newer PC): Clonezilla
    User friendly full disk backup: Rescuezilla

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    Re: Drivers

    Hi Meelis, we will be happy to help when you are able to post the information that I asked for in my last post, there is no way to tell from what you posted what you need.
    Thanks

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