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    Question UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    I've seen several posts that appear similar to my situation, but none that seem similar enough for me to try and apply the responses to my own system. I apologize if I've overlooked the answer; I suspect it's already here somewhere.

    This weekend I tried to build a new system dual-booting Win 7 & Ubuntu 12.04. I've already formatted and re-installed both OS'es 3 times, and don't want to have to do it again, so I've stopped trying to guess how to fix this, and I'm hoping somebody here can advise me how to proceed.

    1) Booted the system off of the Windows 7 DVD, using the UEFI choice from the system.
    2) Within the Win installer I created an approx. 400Gb partition on the hdd. Windows also created a couple of addl partitions - I don't recall the exact sizes, but I think one was 100Mb and the other 128Mb. I assume these are UEFI-related.
    3) Following the advice here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/91437...g-with-windows - I confirmed that Windows is using UEFI.
    4) I created a system recovery DVD in Windows and backed the system up to my NAS. Hopefully I won't need to re-install Windows yet again.
    5) I booted from the Ubuntu LiveCD, using the UEFI boot option from my system BIOS (wonder what to call that now?).
    6) I selected to try before installing. Confirmed the /sys/firmware/efi/ directory existed.
    7) Launched the installer. Chose 'Something else' and created a swap partition and used the remainder of the disk for / .
    8) When I got to the selection of where to install the boot loader, I was stumped. I couldn't find anything online that seemed like a clear answer.

    I wasn't sure what I should choose, but ultimately selected to install the boot loader to the EFI partition.

    The Ubuntu install completed successfully.

    At power-up the computer shows no boot menu at all. If left alone the system will load Ubuntu.

    If I quickly hit the F12 key during POST the BIOS will display its own boot menu, from which I can choose Windows or Ubuntu.

    Previously this weekend I've tried (and failed) to fix things using Boot-repair and EasyBCD.

    *Warning: EasyBCD is not UEFI-compatible and WILL trash your boot structures on the disk. Afterward I was unable to repair Windows and ultimately gave up and reformatted.*

    How can I add a boot menu ?

    Thanks,
    Steve

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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    I think with UEFI you are just supposed to use the UEFI menu.

    Some have posted this, but I do not know if it works.

    dual boot efi windows and efi linux
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1890048

    Enter your UEFI menu, select "Boot maintenance manager", then "Boot options", then "Add boot option", then "NO VOLUME LABEL,....Primary,Slave...1, GPT,..", then browse the /EFI/ubuntu/ folder via the UEFI boot menu, and select the grubx64.efi . Give it the name you want (eg "Precise"), then "Commit Changes and exit", then Enter.
    Dual boot UEFI & windows UEFI post 76
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1719851&page=8
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    Oldfred,

    Thanks for the advice.

    I'm afraid the threads you linked to went a little over my head though. Assuming I do absorb and comprehend those two threads, are they talking about:
    1. installing Grub (presumably from within Ubuntu)
    2. Configure Grub with entries for both Ubuntu & Windows
    3. Configure the motherboard to always launch the Ubuntu bootloader
    4. The Ubuntu bootloader will display the Grub menu, and from there the user can select either OS


    Is that the gist of those discussions?

    "Just using the UEFI menu" sounds perfect, but I can't find a UEFI menu. Are you meaning I should just use a menu served up by the firmware on the motherboard?

    I'd expect that to be an option, but within the motherboard setup I can find no option to have the motherboard display a boot menu. All I can find is a place to specify the boot order, but nowhere to have the mobo present the choice at boot-time.

    If that wasn't what you meant, where else would I find a UEFI menu?

    Thanks again for your time and explanations.

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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    I think the UEFI menu is your f8. I do not know if there is a way to make that a default or not. One or two users have posted screenshots of their UEFI menus, but I do not know enough about them to tell. And from BIOS can you set one as a default?

    You have grub installed if you can boot Ubuntu and then you may be able to add the windows boot entry back to the efi partition into 40_custom.

    Do you have a boot maintenance manager like the one user posted and what options does it have. Each vendor's implementation of UEFI is different.
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    Hi NoahsMyBro.

    Hope this helps.

    I intended to triple boot linux mint, ubuntu 12.04, and solusos.

    I started with mint, taking entire drive.

    This worked well, and I found, that F12 was needed to get to the boot menu, otherwise it sat with a cursor, that gave no options.

    I now had a mint boot option, and a UEFI boot option.

    Both worked.

    Next I installed 12.04 sise by side.

    Had to update grub, to get 12.04 to show up.

    Code:
    sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
    I still need to hit F12, but it's not enough of a problem, that I've gone any further.
    I learn something ubuntu everyday.
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    Question Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    Hello
    Quote Originally Posted by NoahsMyBro View Post
    Previously this weekend I've tried (and failed) to fix things using Boot-repair
    What was the resulting BootInfo URL please?
    and please could you indicate your current BootInfo URL? (it won't change your boot)

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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    Quote Originally Posted by YannBuntu View Post
    Hello


    What was the resulting BootInfo URL please?
    and please could you indicate your current BootInfo URL? (it won't change your boot)
    I'm sorry, but the install environment that I used boot-repair in is long-gone, along with whatever the Boot URL results were.

    On the current sytem, I get this:
    http://paste.ubuntu.com/1038266/

    -- Steve

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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    <off-topic>
    PS: WOW! The Boot-Info report is great! And having the integrated, automatic uploading of the result to the pastebin page is doubly cool!

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    Arrow Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    Hi

    Quote Originally Posted by NoahsMyBro View Post
    On the current sytem, I get this:
    http://paste.ubuntu.com/1038266/

    -- Steve
    Your EFI seem correctly configured: Ubuntu and Windows EFI files are in your EFI partition, and your session is EFI mode. Now what you need is to find a way to setup your BIOS so that it boots on the /efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi file. For this i can't say better than Oldfred.
    If you can't find it please show us pictures (taken with camera) of your BIOS.

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    Re: UEFI, dual-boot, no boot menu

    I didn't find anything in the BIOS that looked like a setting to display a boot menu from the BIOS itself.

    Because I'm not sure exactly which BIOS pages would be helpful, I took several photos of the various pages, and have made them all available here:

    https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resi...53A283066!1232

    And here (if anyone has a problem with skydrive):

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/6138393...7630131050448/

    Thanks,
    Steve

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