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    need to set up backup

    and I'm having a few challenges.

    1. the drive I want to back up to is owned by root, and I don't have access to it. How do I fix this? I know I can sudo in a terminal, but where do the disks "reside" in the file system?

    2. When I partitioned my backup disk, somehow I gave the two partitions identical names. Can I rename one of them?

    3. I was just going to use backup, but if anyone has a recommendation for something better, I'm all ears.

    Thanks!

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    Re: need to set up backup

    Quote Originally Posted by mzimmers View Post
    and I'm having a few challenges.

    1. the drive I want to back up to is owned by root, and I don't have access to it. How do I fix this? I know I can sudo in a terminal, but where do the disks "reside" in the file system?

    2. When I partitioned my backup disk, somehow I gave the two partitions identical names. Can I rename one of them?

    3. I was just going to use backup, but if anyone has a recommendation for something better, I'm all ears.

    Thanks!
    http://www.remastersys.com/ the best backup system for the system in my opinion, easy, reliable and fast.

    For data;


    Change the drive permissions;

    [CODE]sudo nautilus[/CODE EDIT: You should use gksu or gksudo to run graphical programs as root. See here;

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12006778&postcount=3

    ]



    Yes, you can rename a partition. Use Gparted;



    Instructions for renaming;

    http://www.tricksfind.in/2011/05/how...in-ubuntu.html

    More related info;

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto
    Last edited by traditionalist; June 7th, 2012 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Changed info on using sudo. New information
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    Re: need to set up backup

    Thanks for the answers. I think I might have screwed something up on my partition rename, though. My partition doesn't have a mount point. How do I go about adding one? I can re-format if necessary; the partition is empty now.

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    Re: need to set up backup

    Quote Originally Posted by mzimmers View Post
    Thanks for the answers. I think I might have screwed something up on my partition rename, though. My partition doesn't have a mount point. How do I go about adding one? I can re-format if necessary; the partition is empty now.

    To set it up, use gparted. Click on the device and look at the information using "View"



    Choose what you want to do and Gparted will do it.

    Gparted must be used with great care! If you make a mistake it can destroy your system.

    Make sure you know what you are doing and are on the right device before you change things. Before you can do anything to devices they must be unmounted.

    If you want to change something on a /root partition you need to do it from a live disk as you can not unmount the running root partition.
    Last edited by traditionalist; June 7th, 2012 at 09:02 PM.
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    Re: need to set up backup

    Sorry if I'm being dense -- I'm past the point indicated in your picture. I have my two partitions now, but...one of them doesn't have a mount point. I don't know what to do from here.

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    Re: need to set up backup

    Quote Originally Posted by mzimmers View Post
    Sorry if I'm being dense -- I'm past the point indicated in your picture. I have my two partitions now, but...one of them doesn't have a mount point. I don't know what to do from here.
    Choose the disk you wish to set up. Delete any partitions now on it. Make a new partition, using the whole disk if desired, or whatever size you want. Format that partition and give it a mount point. More or less standard for extra disks is;

    /media/devicename

    in the case shown below one of my extra disks is set up as shown;



    This is what you should use unless you want to do something else with that disk. Of course the device name must correspond to the device on your system.
    Last edited by traditionalist; June 7th, 2012 at 09:40 PM. Reason: Typo
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    Re: need to set up backup

    Permissions are invariably confusing and difficult for beginners. Many graphical user interfaces ( GUI's) make things easier but you still have to get some idea of what you can do and what you can't as a user or as root. You can not even read some files unless you are root.

    Some "simple" backup programs are extremely confusing.
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    Re: need to set up backup

    The mount point set option is only available when you create a partition with gparted. Which I already posted;

    http://gparted.sourceforge.net/displ...ount-partition

    QUOTE FROM THE FIRST LINE OF THAT PAGE

    Mounting a Partition

    To mount a partition:

    1. Select an unmounted partition. See the section called “Selecting a Partition”.
    2. Choose: Partition → Mount and select a mount point from the list. The application mounts the partition on the mount point and refreshes the device partition layout in the gparted window.

    UNQUOTE

    Which you apparently did not read.

    Did you use this ?; http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/

    You can try grsync to backup;



    I don't use any other backup systems so I can't give you any advice on them. There will be a setup for defaults on the system you are trying to use, but I don't know anything about it. Is the program name "Simple backup" ?

    There is a lot of information on how to set up remastersys and various possible problems here;

    http://www.remastersys.com/forums/in...4j4&board=38.0

    You have to install the base system first ( which can be used fom the command line) and then the GUI. There are two GUI's, you need to choose the one you prefer or which works best for you. This is explained at length on the the introductory page I posted and which you obviously also did not read.

    http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu.html

    As I already pointed out, trying to set up systems by asking for simple "step by steps" on an absolute beginners forum wont get you very far. You need to know something about what you are doing, not least so that you can ask the right questions. With a modicum of knowledge you wont need to ask as many questions either.
    Last edited by traditionalist; June 8th, 2012 at 02:57 AM.
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    Re: need to set up backup

    Quote Originally Posted by traditionalist View Post
    The mount point set option is only available when you create a partition with gparted. Which I already posted;

    http://gparted.sourceforge.net/displ...ount-partition

    QUOTE FROM THE FIRST LINE OF THAT PAGE

    Mounting a Partition

    To mount a partition:

    1. Select an unmounted partition. See the section called “Selecting a Partition”.
    2. Choose: Partition → Mount and select a mount point from the list. The application mounts the partition on the mount point and refreshes the device partition layout in the gparted window.

    UNQUOTE

    Which you apparently did not read.
    Actually, I read it more than once. The missing bit of knowledge was that one must label a new partition in order for gparted to create a mount point. At least, that's the conclusion I've come to after some experimentation.

    Did you use this ?; http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/
    Yes.

    You can try grsync to backup;



    I don't use any other backup systems so I can't give you any advice on them. There will be a setup for defaults on the system you are trying to use, but I don't know anything about it. Is the program name "Simple backup" ?
    No, it's just called "backup" and can be found in the "System" portion of "System Settings."

    I will take a closer look at grsync. Thanks again.

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