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    Ubuntu Art is Not Commercially Audacious Enough

    The art, design, and digital packaging of the OS ubuntu, is not bold enough. All the art is vague and unassuming, humble, and almost undeserving in attention. Take for example, the OS bootup graphics. They are plain, nice and neatly put, and if it were more brightly colored and creatively assemble it might even be cute and emotionally appealing. But there it sits, monotonous and blank. Windows commercial design team learned along time ago that flowerly brightly colored graphics and art is eye catching and appealing to peoples comfort and sense of security when they are dealing with whether or not they want to invest in something. We need to adopt the same logic.

    Take for example, color theory and the relation colors have on human emotion, like red invoking anger, and blue adventure and the joy of the bright summer sky- this is the very trick advertising companies from tobacco to mcdonalds used to hypnotize people through commercial art into sacrificing their money and time for their product. There was a 'cool' appeal to it in the commercials and movies and other media, regardless of whether or not it might be advantageous to your health.

    It is going to be imparative for Mark Shuttleworth, or whoever is Ubuntu's design director, to put together a more dangerous and creative team to creatively capture the public attention of the computer world. The one it so badly wants to influence with free technology and open source ethics. The project is going to have to expand itself as much as it wants to expand the enterprise ubuntu. We may take advantage of this through viral marketing or even street teams with stickers and flash mob commercials. Whatever we do, we need to do it soon.

    If you took the standard 12.04 wallpaper, slapped it on a box that contained an installation cd for that aforementioned version, and put it next to a Windows OS box on the shelf of an american bestbuy, what would a customer be attracted too? The answer to this question is also the answer to the question of how ubuntu relates to its potential user base.

    Artistic designs and pleasing images or colors appeal to peoples interests. Eye catching products are more likely to get attention from consumers, and if your product meets or exceeds its advertised promised (like being an awesome, free, highly sustainable OS; based off a kernel that secretly rules the world), and the consumer "gets their moneys worth", you get to be dominant choice in the public demographic of consumption. In other words, we win.

    Popularity denotes whose winning the game of OS usage and development, and we need to advertise ourselves on a combative level, and project confidence in our ourselves through viral commercialism. Even if we are an open source community, and don't technically have 'buyers' (unless you buy merch and media from the website or various apps through the software store), the designs we wrap this OS in for the public to see on our websites is what people are going to think when they think of 'ubuntu'. Vague Purple voids of clouds and light that dont try to grab your attention are not going to jump to the forefront of users minds when they'd much rather be looking out through their screens (or 'windows') into the bright spring hill world of windows xp or 7.

    Simple things like the startup up graphics, even the music, may mean everything when it comes to peoples first impression, the one that counts the most, when they are interested in buying PC's.

    For example: How can unbuntu be 'linux for human beings' as it claims when its front page has no direct shots of humans. Windows does, and while the appeal being made may be so minimal its subliminal and seemingly negligible to those who aren't attune to psychology of advertising- real salesmen, or people who are good at getting other people to invest a part of their lives in something they previously had no interest it, know little details like whether or not people are smiling, their relation to objects and color choice/hue/saturation, make all the difference in attracting and keeping consumers. ubuntu's design is trying to be sleek and clean, maybe even ethereal. And it looks good- but it needs to be amazing.

    See how that bold got your attention? Stands out like a sore thumb? Emphasizes the word and its meaning? I hope you get the point of that.

    So if we want to assert ourselves on the computer user base, we need equally asserting art. The advertising game is brutal business of battling companies and corporate entities, and is in essence just primate psychology placated from the wars of chimp tribes in African fields to gestures of advertising in the media, so we must assess our dominance in our battle with mac and windows. Otherwise our project is going to eventually die out simply because we don't want our product to look too appealing to the mainstream and be categorized with our long standing source code enemy, Windows.
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    I also think we can learn a thing or two from the success mac has had. They have built a massive, counter userbase that stands as a small challenge to the beast of windows by openly appealing to younger generations, and blatantly attempting to commercially slander windows for being for old people who aren't 'hip'. Linux, to the average computer users, is to foreign, elitist, and geeky to be of any interest of their time.

    I mean, we might be good, but we still come off with the vibe of a socially awkward computer acolyte who rubs his knowledge and complexity in the face of its peers. We need to shed this public image of linux if we are to progress, because thats how the public still perceives us, even though we are far more diverse in personality and number then previously thought (This is also, part of our threatening demeanor, that a community of freely associating power users, programmers and everyday people may rise with the complexity of participation l1ke wikipedia or torrent culture and mold the world to its open source ethics).

    Ubuntu has succeed in making linux less technical and more appealing to the average persons sensibilities then say, the hacker OS backtrack 5; but it is missing a key ingredient, and thats being catchy, comforting, and maybe even sexy. If it doesn't change its image and connect to its user base on an greater, more audacious artistic and emotional level, the goal of having 200 million users will be nothing but a pipe dream.

    A similar sentiment was written on the blog 'grokcode' about the appeal of programming languages python over ruby. The article tries to denote that the design of python learning web sites is sub-par to the educational websites for ruby. Even though python may be a superior coding language, in the long run ruby may gain more popularity based purely on artistic appeal. The author puts it better then I ever code when he says:

    It’s that the uglyness makes sites hard to navigate and hard to use. It’s that nobody is inspired by uglyness and nobody wants to use ugly products when there are better options. Nobody wants to hire someone who builds ugly web apps. It is unprofessional and sloppy to be so ugly.
    Now ubuntu may not be ugly. Hell, i think we come off as pretty sleek. But we dont have the design edge we need to catch the right peoples attention. If we do not change this we will continue to exist in the shadow of windows until we change the way we are perceived by the public.

    If we want to widen the project of the open source community we are going to have to start viewing the public as a pool of interests that can be cultivated through commercial appeal, whether or not we even care about the money, we have to try to assert our existence with art and design that makes us appealing to people who deal with blue screens high priced software- because simply being free and stable has only proven to be so fruitful.

    Art by its very nature is very vain and attention getting, it assumes it is made to be viewed when it is created. Now what does our art say to the computer users it appeals to? We may not be able to make a commercial with a humorous car crash, that would be better suited for insurance companies- what we can do, however, is work towards creatively exploring our motto, 'linux for human beings' through the same advertising medium, in the fashion of say, iphones, the science channel, or a samsung galaxy. All of these commercial are teasing and inviting people to use their stuff with crazy graphics for the eyes and music to the ears, and ubuntu needs to play that exact same game, and utilize the internet and computer magazines and maybe even tv commercials, and play that game better then the current 'king of the hill.'
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    Apparently Ubuntu is soon going to get a facelift. Among other things I know that a new icon set is being made. Ubuntu definitively needs a new visual style. At the moment I think that KDE provides the most elegant desktop by default.
    http://arstechnica.com/business/news...al-quetzal.ars

    On the other hand I've seen custom desktops that is more beautiful that anything I've seen from Apple, Windows or any Linux distro. You know that things are bad state when the only half decent desktops are found in the screen-shot threads of various forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murderd2death View Post
    I also think we can learn a thing or two from the success mac has had. They have built a massive, counter userbase that stands as a small challenge to the beast of windows by openly appealing to younger generations, and blatantly attempting to commercially slander windows for being for old people who aren't 'hip'.
    Well, that, and something else: they bundle an entire computer with their OS.

    No matter how good Linux is, it's not a whole-product solution. Most people don't think in terms of components and OSes, they just walk into WalMart and buy a computer. It never occurs to them that they would want to replace the OS that came with their computer with something they downloaded off the Internet.

    Those of us who do this are understandably a relatively rare breed in the larger gene pool. It's rather remarkable that Linux has come as far as it has given these circumstances, but it's unlikely to ever break past the 3% barrier....

    ...that is, until more OEMs come on board offering whole-product solution, the box and the OS preinstalled on it.

    That's where the only possible payoff lies in terms of significant audience expansion, and thankfully that's where the folks at Canonical seem to be putting a lot of their effort.

    Fortunately, this is one of those moments in history in which the slender margins of PC vendors can work in Ubuntu's favor:

    No matter how much money they put into R&D, design, fabrication, etc., all of it becomes a total waste the moment the user turns on the machine, because at that moment the user experience every major PC vendor delivers is pixel-for-pixel identical to every one of their competitors: Microsoft Windows.

    This refusal to differentiate has reduced their ability to compete to only one dimension, price - and in only one direction, down.

    Not surprisingly, their margins have eroded to the point that even the two largest of them, Dell and HP, have begun reconsidering some of their commitment to PC manufacturing over the last year.

    Ubuntu is one solution for this.

    It won't be the saving grace for their whole product line, but it seems well worth the modest effort to at least offer a line of laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled, perhaps best targeted, as you suggest, to the younger demographic quite willing and able to nimbly move between OSes.

    After all, with their margins eroding out from under them, what have they got to lose?

    How long do they imagine they'll be able to stay in the game if the only thing that can do to compete is turn their margins completely negative?

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    Well, that, and something else: they bundle an entire computer with their OS.

    No matter how good Linux is, it's not a whole-product solution. Most people don't think in terms of components and OSes, they just walk into WalMart and buy a computer. It never occurs to them that they would want to replace the OS that came with their computer with something they downloaded off the Internet."
    Well, we have system 76, and dell has ubuntu preinstall option for certain desktops. That, and they are selling them preinstalled in stores in china. I think china is a great place to start sneaking into the marktet, I feel, and to get good numbers and a growing community. Still, if their commercial art and presentation fails to cath the attention of and connect with their customers on an emotional level the project will look like a dud.

    I also think that, in order to stress the communal open source nature of the project, we need to advertise ourselves as a user base. OMGubuntu did some project where they tried to get ubuntu users to pronounce 'ubuntu' as properly as they thought in promotion of 12.04. This was a step in the right direction to show our communities 'face'. But in total it was a weak attempt at creatively imagining an efficient way to focus the users into promoting and expanding the project. We need to show the world we believe in open source ethics and show them that our vision for the future that can be achieved through this project, and thereby change computational science and communication for the good of the world. This is possible. this can be achieved. But we have to get enough people to believe.

    That, and when oneiric came out, there was a website countdown timer for it. It was produced in such a way to show off its grandiosity, bright colors, high resolution, positive imagery- when in truth a lot of people did not connect to the idea, because it was pitched to an audience that didnt feel the same way about the situation (the countdown) and thought its expectations were over blown. This was revealed as even more of a flop when a lot of people were turned off by unity. thats not to say that the switch to unity was bad (all bad reactions seem to be coming from cynical ex users who loved GNOME more), because unity has proven user friendly to foreigners- but Ubuntu is still doing a bad job representing itself accurately and artistically to the public. We need both an increase in the quality of applications available and content available, and we get that with an increase in communal effort within the users to create and test these applications and distros, and we can get this done faster if we have more input, and we get more input by appealing to the masses as much as possible.

    I believe the ubuntu art and design teams have the power to utilize ubuntu's vision through a combination of art(advertising) and involving its users in it, and inspire people to rally together under open source, the same way governments have used posters and commercials to rally soldiers and popular bands use street teams. The vision and passion is there and there are a lot of die hard users like myself who would love to see this thing kick off and change the world, but if the music sucks nobody is going to come to the concert, and if our buildboards look bad (or don't exist), why would anyone come to us?

    So unless we find a way to entertain average public citizens into considering us as an option we are never going to be able to achieve the goal of open source code dominating public computing. And the power of constant and voluntary innovation will be light lost for a while until someone else steps up. Ubuntu is one of the only distros in a long time that has had this type of a shot at making it into the public world of computing on this massive a scale, and if it fails to artistically express and achieve this vision with this LTS, its quit possible our members may wade off (at least per capita) in light of new technological innovations and monopolies, and will have to be resurrected later with someone who has the passion to drive this baby to success properly.

    Ubuntu Team, you have a host of creative and artistically talented users at your disposal. Graphic designers, musicians, painters, programmers, some even entrepeneurs. Every single one of us must be utilized to the best of our abilities if we are to grow to the extent we want too. But you need to invite them to play. I am part of the team just as much as Mark Shuttleworth, and I want to help just as bad. But we don't have a channel for people like me to help other then some bad website of 'ubuntu ides' were we vote ideas up and down like facebook statuses. Is that all there is too this? I think we can do better than that. If we invented channels of participation for average users like me o anyone else, besides having them just post bugs and grievances on message boards, then not only would participation and community grow to the size of sites like like deviantart, but possibly even facebook, and fopefully more than that.

    I see this as more then just an OS. Many of us host our lives on our computers now. Many of us feel we have been kind of freed by participating in this open source material. If we can find a way to show that our intimations to other people, all our talents and stories, even through a miniseries of collaborative youtube advertisements, i guarantee you that our numbers will explode, our ethics realized, applications revolutionized, and it will be a huge success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Lips View Post
    Apparently Ubuntu is soon going to get a facelift. Among other things I know that a new icon set is being made. Ubuntu definitively needs a new visual style. At the moment I think that KDE provides the most elegant desktop by default.
    http://arstechnica.com/business/news...al-quetzal.ars

    On the other hand I've seen custom desktops that is more beautiful that anything I've seen from Apple, Windows or any Linux distro. You know that things are bad state when the only half decent desktops are found in the screen-shot threads of various forums.
    I want to believe that the face lift will be revolutionary, but my intuition tells me it is more hype then substance. The trend so far has been a strange disconnection from the user base in the name of business affairs, so were spending more time trying to find sponsors when our presentation should be to a humane public. Or at the least, maybe a compromise by preaching to business as humanely as possible, if you get my feeling.

    And yes, i've also had an awesome time messing with my shell and desktop and ive learned more about computers because I have that option open, and i've seen other people do the same. We need to get that same spark going for artistically advertising ubuntu the same way people show off their conky scripts and desktop creation in the other forums. That is the most prosperous route i see, but I dont see ubuntu even entertaining that idea.

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    Hmm... You meant that junk food restaurant??
    Oh, well. It's not that bad using the same trick like junk food restaurants did for advertising. Just imagine how many people come, visit, and enjoy in a day.
    Yeah, maybe that's the similiar or the same logic. And it's true that it's not that beauty enuogh as a standard, but we can customize the eye candy through the community. Hehe..

    Comparing with other OSs?? Of course ubuntu can't deal with them. By default, both Win and Mac have nice GUI, better than ubuntu in this case, case box, ads, etc.
    Maybe it's because ubuntu is new player, and needs more time to compete with them. Or, maybe it's because we, ourself, that really want and want ubuntu to boot faster than the other OSs, so that the eyecandy left behind..

    But don't worry, we own the text. Hehe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elzenbr8 View Post
    Hmm... You meant that junk food restaurant??
    Oh, well. It's not that bad using the same trick like junk food restaurants did for advertising. Just imagine how many people come, visit, and enjoy in a day.
    Yeah, maybe that's the similiar or the same logic. And it's true that it's not that beauty enuogh as a standard, but we can customize the eye candy through the community. Hehe..

    Comparing with other OSs?? Of course ubuntu can't deal with them. By default, both Win and Mac have nice GUI, better than ubuntu in this case, case box, ads, etc.
    Maybe it's because ubuntu is new player, and needs more time to compete with them. Or, maybe it's because we, ourself, that really want and want ubuntu to boot faster than the other OSs, so that the eyecandy left behind..

    But don't worry, we own the text. Hehe..
    I personally think these opinions are invalid because they are not optimistic enough. To negative. But thats just me, I don't like limiting myself.

    To take this down another set of train tracks: I see all Negatively generated opinions of myself as automatically invalid, because I refuse to do anything else but constantly improve who I am. Negative thinking makes you static, sad, self-loathing, and sometimes even physically malnourished (the more you allow yourself to be stressed or depressed, the more you look it. And If it gets bad enough, you may even shorten your life. That is not some new age thinking, that is Scientific Fact.). You have the ability to choose your thoughts just like you choose your clothes, so choose good ones. Choose the ones you want. And don't sell yourself short. Those that believe in themselves and work hard make it farther and are more successful in life, they challenged themselves to be that good, every, single, day. The ones that just give up and deal with what they are given, get what they asked for.

    The same logic can and should be applied to ubuntu's development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rg4w View Post
    Fortunately, this is one of those moments in history in which the slender margins of PC vendors can work in Ubuntu's favor:

    No matter how much money they put into R&D, design, fabrication, etc., all of it becomes a total waste the moment the user turns on the machine, because at that moment the user experience every major PC vendor delivers is pixel-for-pixel identical to every one of their competitors: Microsoft Windows.

    This refusal to differentiate has reduced their ability to compete to only one dimension, price - and in only one direction, down.

    Not surprisingly, their margins have eroded to the point that even the two largest of them, Dell and HP, have begun reconsidering some of their commitment to PC manufacturing over the last year.

    Ubuntu is one solution for this.

    It won't be the saving grace for their whole product line, but it seems well worth the modest effort to at least offer a line of laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled, perhaps best targeted, as you suggest, to the younger demographic quite willing and able to nimbly move between OSes.

    After all, with their margins eroding out from under them, what have they got to lose?

    How long do they imagine they'll be able to stay in the game if the only thing that can do to compete is turn their margins completely negative?
    I do agree also that this is a positive time for ubuntu, because windows 8 has gotten a lot of complaints, and the computer market is a bit more on the edge then it usually is, particularly since hard drive prices have gone up. Some of the linux community already thinks windows 8 will flop, at least to a degree, and linux will follow in its footsteps because of ubuntu's appeal

    Also, which will be good, is that steam is coming out for linux. This is a great turn of events and it will prove to larger companies that there is a market that can be mined with linux user unlike previously thought. This will forward drivers, games, and apps for linux just enough to get the bump it needs in the right direction for users to transfer more and more over to linux based systems. And I believe that if ubuntu advertises itself appropriately, this will result in an explosion of user growth and application improvement rather then just a slow, gradual ascent over time it has seen thus far.
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    I strongly feel scince dropping the browns and oranges and animal backgrounds (Ibex was the last one default animal?) Ubuntu lost its visual identity.

    Wish they would go back to animals by default.

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