Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 21

Thread: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    Looks like a bug either with Trusty version SDC or , after an update/upgrade on persisitve USB key! The KingstonDatatraveler USB 8GB ver 3.0 will boot just fine on USB ver 2.0 but all of a sudden will not boot on USB version 3.0 hardware. I am assuming perhaps a driver fail - but I will experiement with an earlier version of ubuntu SDC as I suspect there is a major bug with SDC and trusty. I know that this is not the place for trusty bug report but since it appears to affect development version (as is which I am running) then I thought it pertitnent.

    Regards..
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Beans
    Hidden!
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    I'm glad to see this bug pop up as it has been around for a while. Now it's confirmed.
    UsingTheTerminal and PopularPages A very handy Documentation Search Tool used by many.

    Smile today, cry tomorrow!
    ( Read this everyday )

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    Currently trying to authenticate this assumption.

    Regards..

    Edit:

    I used a different brand USB flash drive. Verbatim 8GB. ver 3.0

    I also tried to use SDC on Maveric with KingstonDT USB.. but it still failed USB ver 3.0 hardware.

    Currently on ubuntu-gnome (perisitve-updated/upgraded) with Verbatim USB ver 3.0

    I can still use Kingston brand to boot ISOs on version 3 but will only boot a perisitve drive on ver 2.0 hardware.

    I'll monitor this install and try xubuntu-vivid on the KingstonDT and see what happens.

    Regards..
    Last edited by ventrical; 1 Week Ago at 02:34 PM.
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    /dev/root
    Beans
    Hidden!

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    It would be interesting to find out if this depends on the way you create the USB boot drive. You tried it with the SDC. What about mkusb (or dd)? You mentioned persistence. Do you think it makes a difference?

    -o-

    I can mention that I have an old and much used Sandisk Extreme USB 3 pendrive. Something happened to it maybe one year ago. I think some electronic component was damaged. It stopped working in my Toshiba's USB 3 port, but works well in USB 2 ports. I have other Sandisk Extreme USB 3 pendrives that still work in the USB 3 port.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by sudodus View Post
    You mentioned persistence. Do you think it makes a difference?
    Yuppers. I've aways had trouble since after Maveric. So I just did actual installs onto the USB , some of which still work today.

    -o-

    I can mention that I have an old and much used Sandisk Extreme USB 3 pendrive. Something happened to it maybe one year ago. I think some electronic component was damaged. It stopped working in my Toshiba's USB 3 port, but works well in USB 2 ports. I have other Sandisk Extreme USB 3 pendrives that still work in the USB 3 port.

    I am leaning towards this theory atm. I am also tempted to propound that these issues come up now and again in ubuntu-desktop but not xubuntu-desktop and kubuntu can do things that ubuntu-desktop(unity) iso will just refuse (like identifying graphical adapters but I will have to research this futher.

    -note- I do know that there are major bug reports out on SDC, I myself creating one but this was a real surprise when the Kingston quit.

    Regards..
    Last edited by sudodus; 6 Days Ago at 05:50 PM.
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    Here is a screen shot from a Maveric install. It reads two seperate disks. 1.1GB File:Ubuntu-GNOME 15.04 amd64 and Kingston Data Traveler 3.0:7.9 GB Filesystem.

    I will try persistive xubuntu now.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    xubuntu persistive install did not work either. Still busted. It may be that the whole process of putting gnome3 persisent busted it's version 3 capabilities. I don't know atm .. but the Verbatim(3) 'live' persistent gnome3 vivid is working just fine on USB ver 3 hardware, updates and all.

    Regards..
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    /dev/root
    Beans
    Hidden!

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    I suspect that the Kingston pendrive is damaged. What would happen if you wipe it clean an start from the beginning with either mkusb or SDC or Unetbootin?

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by sudodus View Post
    I suspect that the Kingston pendrive is damaged. What would happen if you wipe it clean an start from the beginning with either mkusb or SDC or Unetbootin?
    Here is what I get now with my Verbatim USB 3.0
    Code:
    Cannot mount /dev/loop1 on cow
    Keep in mind that I am doing

    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    so it must be busting the persistive during this process.


    What would happen if you wipe it clean an start from the beginning..
    I did this earlier and used FAT32 and it booted with persisitve!!

    It seems to deprecate after you turn the machine off and let it sit for a while.

    I'm seriously thinking it is the persistive bug that is doing this.

    Regards..
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Beta Testing in Canada
    Beans
    5,919
    Distro
    Ubuntu Development Release

    Re: USB ver.3.0 persistive drive now will not boot on ver. 3 hardware

    I did the process all over again and it auto defaulted to FAT32. I am overwriting the old data with new format ext4.

    I haven' tried your suggest as of yet.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    This is Rolling Release
    Warnings for New Beta Testers& Helpful Terminal Commands:
    Running Trusty /devel/@ 5.120GHz32bit/ Please put [ prefix] on New Threads!

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •