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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    thank you Richard for all this excellent info


    the route i showed worked fine on Oneiric but failed on Pangolin

    The PPA you showed here works on Pangolin
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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    Quote Originally Posted by shantiq View Post
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    Also Seamonkey
    ...
    Only problem is the one in the repos does not work on recent Ubuntu versions. it is far too old

    But SeaMonkey 2.8 can be downloaded as a tar.bz2 in many languages

    So i found i had to do this to get it started

    Unpack to home folder then
    Code:
    sudo mv seamonkey /usr/local
    Right click on desktop to create a launcher if on Oneiric enter Seamonkey in properties then command is
    Code:
    /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey
    Then to go to the net and find a logo ...
    ...
    Hey, Shantiq, I really want to thank you for posting this! I'm now on 12.04 and was having trouble running Seamonkey from my home folder. Now, I've followed your instructions to the dot and got it working from /usr/local/seamonkey/.

    I just want to add a couple of things... To stick it in the Unity Launcher, I added alacarte (MainMenu) from the USC and that allowed me to make a launcher in 12.04 (Unity 3D). Then I started Seamonkey via the Dash and once it was running, I locked it to Unity's launcher on the left.

    The other point is that we can find a bunch of icons here and I went with:
    /usr/local/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default.png

    Once again, a big thank you

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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    Quote Originally Posted by maureenc View Post
    Hi Shantiq,

    I've deleted the whole lot and started from scratch three times now and still won't launch......Although launcher is now on Desktop rather than in top toolbar.....

    My launcher"properties" are exactly the same except that mine show 29 bytes.... But we won't squabble over that, will we!

    I notice, however, that the other launchers don't have the full location, just the name "Midori %U" but I don't know what that means.... Doesn't work when I use that location instead anyway.

    Permission is set for me and as executable.....

    When you extracted yours from the TAR did you just do "extract here" from right click? That's what I did....

    At least it's not giving an error anymore... Just not doing anything!

    The reason I can't get any ppa updates or new software from those repositories is that work seems to have come to a stop on Ubuntu's Armel Deb dream.... Nothing is going into the repositories for this device anymore so my 0.4.2 version of Midori will be the last and Qupzilla will never make it at all!

    Arch Linux has stopped developement on the AC100 too I think but there may be so work for other Nvidia/Tegra chips along the line that can be hacked.... I am hopeful....

    I could try going for Precise but not sure I would be any better off and it takes so much effort to get something that resembles a working system up and running with so little info available.....

    Shame.... The Toshiba AC100 is a neat device.....and very cheap!

    ok Maureen lets start absolutely from scratch

    when you see
    "Midori %U"
    that means you installed that one through the normal way [repository]


    since here we are going from tar that does not apply/work

    so let me break it down

    1. first the download of the tar; i pick the british one here but of course take the one you need


    2. open it and unpack to to home folder it will be named seamonkey by default

    Once it is safely in home folder


    3.
    Code:
    sudo mv seamonkey /usr/local
    [or where you wish it to be]

    4. again create launcher method is good for most recent versions of ubuntu


    5.
    Code:
    /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey
    in command in launcher


    this time



    PS thank you Vasa for feedback
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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    Hi again Shantiq...

    Thank you for explaining about the %U bit.... One less mystery in my Ubuntu world is always welcome!

    I am currently on my fourth "starting from scratch" with Seamonkey.... He/She and I are becoming quite close friends... We may not yet understand one another.... But we have hopes... Well, one of us does.

    I note that your link is to the 2.9 beta version? I have been downloading the 2.8 version in the assumption that it would be safer to do so?

    Apart from the bit about using Nautilus Script Manager to create the Launcher, I did everything as per your instructions.... I then used the Main Menu option under Applications > Other > to create a new launcher with the same properties as yours.... I didn't think that would make any difference.... I think that is the way that Vasal did it too?

    I have now downloaded the Nautilus Script Manager and will try to get to grips with it tomorrow.... At the moment it just sits there with nothing in the display telling me that scripts must first be installed in /usr/share/nautilus/scripts... But not how to get a script into it.... Am I supposed to use Gedit? Anyway.... Will check that out tomorrow... I don't think it is the cause of the problem.

    The "desktop configuration file (application/x-desktop) with the seamonkey logo is exactly the same as yours.... apart from the number of bytes being 277.

    But.... I don't think any of that makes any difference because... From everything I have read so far I believe I should be able to double click on the /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey shell file and it should run? It asks me if I want to run in terminal, display or run.... But when I select Run...nothing happens.... Which is what is wrong.... but why..... I have the right permission... I am the owner and it is set to execute.... But it doesn't.... No matter how much I plead and cajole.... Nada... Niet... Nothing....

    In the folder there is also a "seamonkey-bin" which is also executable ("executable (application/X-executable)

    I've just extracted the 2.9 folder and that doesn't run the seamonkey/seamonkey either....

    I'm beginning to think this is yet another quirk of the Armel installation... Plus I am not running under Unity but using Gnome Session-Fallback.... But that shouldn't make any difference?

    Thank you for your patience Shantiq

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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    ha well it might be the Armel thing

    i too run on Gnome Session-Fallback since i LOathe U-know what


    Best of luck with it all. No doubt it will become clear at some point
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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    faster route as indicated earlier on for SEAMONKEY this worked on Precise when the other route would not


    Code:
    sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29

    CLICK ENTER


    THEN ENTER THIS


    echo -e "\ndeb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pro...la/mozilla/apt all main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null

    ==> get the deb

    save the file to Downloads


    Code:
    cd Downloads



    Code:
    sudo dpkg -i seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.9-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    Hi Shantiq,

    I tried that one yesterday and various other DEB downloads but get the same response when I try to install them "ERROR - WRONG ARCHITECTURE"

    Problem is that this is not AMD64 or 386 or any of the normal ones but the NVIDIA TEGRA chip which is a completely different kettle of fish.

    These links will give you some idea of what we have been trying to do:

    http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/ac1...rsolar-22.html

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100

    But Ubuntu has lost interest in the AC100 now so there has been no build work for months now....Meaning that the software that was already in the repos last year is all that we have/will have....

    There is an old version of Seamonkey that I could install but it is 2.0.13 and full of bugs for which I will never be able to get any patches!

    I could try installing Precise on here but from other AC100 forums it sounds as though it doesn't work as well as 11.10.... Video doesn't work at all and I doubt I would be much better off......Besides it has been such a difficult "birth" getting this far with the Tegra.

    I think I will have to leave my "experminenting" as it stands and use this little machine as it stands now.... Most things work .... pretty fast.... It cost me very little to have a fully functioning "laptop" with all mod cons.... And it is so small and light that it fits easily into a handbag!

    On the other hand there is some work being done on Puppy Linux still that may be interesting.... If I can face it, that is!

    Cheers Shantiq,
    Mo

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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    now you talking

    Problem is that this is not AMD64 or 386 or any of the normal ones but the NVIDIA TEGRA chip which is a completely different kettle of fish
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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    Just want to mention that I could update Seamonkey to 2.9.1 via the browser's internal update mechanism and so the update was a differential (delta) and small, less that 1 MB. That's great. My other browsers, Firefox and Chrome, installed via ppas, require downloading the full version whenever an update is available.

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    Re: Internet Browsers off the beaten track Midori Seamonkey...

    yes Vasa the "MOnkey" is really quite a kicker

    It is really growing on me and find myself there more and more
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