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    Lightbulb To those who do NOT use only LTS versions. Please be tolerant with us...

    Those on the "upgrade train" are going to meet a lot of us who now HAVE to update (or is that upgrade?), and just want to transition smoothly. I am sure MANY discussions formerly talked to death will be reopened for commentary, workarounds and solutions.

    The 10.4 to 12.4 is introducing things like Unity, and other things which we may get used to in time. However there are some things that are not obvious, or are not there anymore and need workarounds, or are just forgotten and/or broken.

    We may not have even been on these forums in two years! Some of us did not have an interest or need to know about the releases in between. Many of us did not read the articles, blogs and comments made then about the complaints and praises of those releases.

    I expect to be doing this for a few weeks as I slowly wean myself away from 10.04, while others are jumping in head first and overwriting their 10.04...

    Forgive us if we ask what may be obvious, or question something buried years ago. I am finding a few work-stoppers, much to learn, and yes, a few cool new features on my second day here. I (and others) will need answers, suggestions and support at times.

    Thank you,
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    Re: To those who do NOT use only LTS versions. Please be tolerant with us...

    Ignore the jerks you encounter. You know that most here aren't.

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    Patience and tolerance work both ways

    Just be patient and ignore the answers you don't like.

    Also remember that 10.04 is supported for another entire year so you can expect many bugs to be worked out of 12.04 in the next few months.

    And it may take a few weeks after final release for some of the "how-tos" to be written and perfected.

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    Re: To those who do NOT use only LTS versions. Please be tolerant with us...

    Quote Originally Posted by tlcstat View Post
    Greetings,
    If you like to use a LTS then I would't use 12.04 since it is still in beta and has a lot of breakage. When it goes final LTS it won't be found in this section. Just search for whatever problems you may have under the regular forum headings.
    Good luck!
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    Lately I've found 12.04 pretty solid (once you get by install!). There was a massive update to 3.2.0-22 now seems to be settling down.

    Recommended - carve out a test partition (10 GB in my case) and give it a whirl. I prefer unity-2D sharp fast display vs. -3D foggy fuzzy hard to read semi-transparent pseudo touch screen compiz overhead, but that's your choice.

    Enjoy.

    Jerry

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    I do not have any problem with answering the same question again and again because by then I know the answer. I do take issue with those who are looking to moan and complain.

    We have had more than moans. We have also had a form of abuse when 11.04 came out and then when 11.10 came out and we will get it again when 12.04 is released.

    Tell us what you want to know but do not tell me what you like or don't like about this and that. I do not want to know. We have the Community Cafe for that. I can choose to go in the cafe or not. Remember, your post gives me a right to reply and that is that start of an argument.

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    Re: To those who do NOT use only LTS versions. Please be tolerant with us...

    Quote Originally Posted by emarkay View Post
    Those on the "upgrade train" are going to meet a lot of us who now HAVE to update (or is that upgrade?), and just want to transition smoothly. I am sure MANY discussions formerly talked to death will be reopened for commentary, workarounds and solutions.

    The 10.4 to 12.4 is introducing things like Unity, and other things which we may get used to in time. However there are some things that are not obvious, or are not there anymore and need workarounds, or are just forgotten and/or broken.

    We may not have even been on these forums in two years! Some of us did not have an interest or need to know about the releases in between. Many of us did not read the articles, blogs and comments made then about the complaints and praises of those releases.

    I expect to be doing this for a few weeks as I slowly wean myself away from 10.04, while others are jumping in head first and overwriting their 10.04...

    Forgive us if we ask what may be obvious, or question something buried years ago. I am finding a few work-stoppers, much to learn, and yes, a few cool new features on my second day here. I (and others) will need answers, suggestions and support at times.

    Thank you,
    MRK
    Your issues are not unique to LTS -> LTS upgrades, we support all upgrades as much as possible.

    My advice is that you start with backups.

    You can then attempt an upgrade, most of the time I anticipate it will go well. If stability is important, wait 4-6 weeks until after 12.04 is released.

    If you have a problem ask for help.

    In the unlikely event you have catastrophic system failure (it happens), be prepared for a fresh install and restore your data from backup.

    Personally I keep a /data partition , makes upgrades and fresh installs rather trivial.
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    Re: To those who do NOT use only LTS versions. Please be tolerant with us...

    One thing I have learned is that this site has a wonderful search tool. You can find a valid topic on just about any issue.

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    Re: To those who do NOT use only LTS versions. Please be tolerant with us...

    Quote Originally Posted by bodhi.zazen View Post
    Your issues are not unique to LTS -> LTS upgrades, we support all upgrades as much as possible.

    My advice is that you start with backups.

    You can then attempt an upgrade, most of the time I anticipate it will go well. If stability is important, wait 4-6 weeks until after 12.04 is released.

    If you have a problem ask for help.

    In the unlikely event you have catastrophic system failure (it happens), be prepared for a fresh install and restore your data from backup.

    Personally I keep a /data partition , makes upgrades and fresh installs rather trivial.
    This is a very good response. I do want to add one thing though.

    As a user of the LTS I am sure you know that there are "step" releases. You are currently using 10.04.4 (last step release).

    I would not upgrade (technically a version upgrade) until the first step release at least. This gives the thing a chance to be actually out there on a lot of hardware, more bugs discovered and fixed.

    12.04.1 is due July 19th. 12.04.2 is due 1-31-13. These are basically just new install disks that are up to date on packages.

    Anytime you upgrade you will be up to date on packages anyway but I think that just about any time between those 2 releases is a good time to upgrade a LTS.

    I may not use Ubuntu but my wife uses 10.04 and sometime in there I will be upgrading her box.
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