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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1376336 was my Lucid netboot install.
    Netboot does tend to be fast.
    (BTW, these days I usually use debootstrap--which is even worse for the first-timer.
    It's a script that installs a deb-based distro in a chroot, which you then configure to boot.)

    For networking, I use wpa_supplicant and /etc/network/interfaces.

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    Question Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by nm_geo View Post
    Resolved my slow booting by commenting out references to the auto eth0..

    in etc/network/interfaces. Now my mini.iso install takes only a few seconds from boot

    to working. Super fast start up I may run some tests to see just how fast it is

    compared to my other versions. Of course it is very light and if I did not add dropbox

    and others that I think I must have it would be even faster.
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    I looked at /etc/network/interfaces no mention of wired eth0. See below.
    There is no wired ethernet attached.

    Why does mini-iso lubuntu wait and wait for the network, then say it is waiting for 60 seconds more?? What is telling it to do that? Sure doesn't look like /etc/network/interfaces to me?

    Code:
    # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
    
    # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
    
    # The loopback network interface
    auto lo
    iface lo inet loopback
    
    # The primary network interface
    auto eth1
    iface eth1 inet dhcp
    	# wireless-* options are implemented by the wireless-tools package
    	wireless-mode managed
    	wireless-essid any
    After bootup, lubuntu desktop, some seconds later wireless connects.

    Thanks for any ideas.

    Jerry

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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrylamos View Post
    ?
    I looked at /etc/network/interfaces no mention of wired eth0. See below.
    There is no wired ethernet attached.

    Why does mini-iso lubuntu wait and wait for the network, then say it is waiting for 60 seconds more?? What is telling it to do that? Sure doesn't look like /etc/network/interfaces to me?

    Code:
    # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
    
    # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
    
    # The loopback network interface
    auto lo
    iface lo inet loopback
    
    # The primary network interface
    auto eth1
    iface eth1 inet dhcp
        # wireless-* options are implemented by the wireless-tools package
        wireless-mode managed
        wireless-essid any
    After bootup, lubuntu desktop, some seconds later wireless connects.

    Thanks for any ideas.

    Jerry
    All good questions.. Here is what mine looks like and it boots wireless before login now.. No delays anymore on this end boot time 11 seconds crazy fast.

    # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
    # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

    # The loopback network interface
    auto lo
    iface lo inet loopback

    # The primary network interface
    # auto eth0
    # iface eth0 inet dhcp
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    Talking Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    nm_geo,

    Could well be the differences in the /etc/network/interfaces is that I installed network-manager, primarily to get the panel applet.

    Based on your posting, I commented out just one line:

    # auto eth1

    and left all the rest.

    It worked! Booted right up, no wait, wireless and all!?

    Well, thanks for the suggestion!

    Jerry

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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrylamos View Post
    nm_geo,

    Could well be the differences in the /etc/network/interfaces is that I installed network-manager, primarily to get the panel applet.

    Based on your posting, I commented out just one line:

    # auto eth1

    and left all the rest.

    It worked! Booted right up, no wait, wireless and all!?

    Well, thanks for the suggestion!

    Jerry
    NP glad you got it figured out.. Some users will probably be glad to see all these little issues we are resolving with the non-pae min.. That is if they are patient enough to go through the process.
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    Wink Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    I don't know how to feed some of these results back to development. The slow boot up is, do you think, back in Debian? Not sure it's worth while writing a bug on slow boot up since Debian & Ubuntu development are concentrating on the very latest fastest huge memory exotic architecture $$ pc's that will run lots of overhead like Unity-3D, revolving windows, ...

    So anyhow I appreciate these forums where us users can trade hints.

    Jerry

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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrylamos View Post
    I don't know how to feed some of these results back to development. The slow boot up is, do you think, back in Debian? Not sure it's worth while writing a bug on slow boot up since Debian & Ubuntu development are concentrating on the very latest fastest huge memory exotic architecture $$ pc's that will run lots of overhead like Unity-3D, revolving windows, ...

    So anyhow I appreciate these forums where us users can trade hints.

    Jerry
    If the slow boot is due to searching for a network I've recently encountered that with even live installs. I was doing some testing this AM and I think we're just in a major borkage stage of development.

    I mean feature freeze just passed and UI freeze comes on the 23rd, then we have just a week to squash huge bugs before Beta 1. So I think a lot of things are just in a state of flux right now

    I'm personally waiting for 'tasksel' to be updated in the repos, and a new netboot/mini image to follow ............... we're gaining

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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kansasnoob View Post
    If the slow boot is due to searching for a network I've recently encountered that with even live installs. I was doing some testing this AM and I think we're just in a major borkage stage of development.

    I mean feature freeze just passed and UI freeze comes on the 23rd, then we have just a week to squash huge bugs before Beta 1. So I think a lot of things are just in a state of flux right now

    I'm personally waiting for 'tasksel' to be updated in the repos, and a new netboot/mini image to follow ............... we're gaining
    I think the slow boot is certainly due to network searching and would be common to all Ubuntu mini.iso versions.

    I am just glad that we do have a answer to the user whose hardware

    will not run a pae kernel and I think we do. Lots more testing coming

    soon. I am in the process of getting my hard drives cloned and ready..
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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Oh cool, I've been waiting since December for this to become a big deal, haha.

    I had to stop testing my Pentium M laptop back in December when they switched the kernel in the LiveCD. I'll start testing the mini iso this weekend and help out. Thanks for the heads up on this install method.

    I hear talk about documentation for non-pae computers. I'd be willing to help with this. Had to do it already for the i8xx fiasco back in Lucid

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    Re: The non-pae mini.iso testing thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Catharsis View Post
    Oh cool, I've been waiting since December for this to become a big deal, haha.

    I had to stop testing my Pentium M laptop back in December when they switched the kernel in the LiveCD. I'll start testing the mini iso this weekend and help out. Thanks for the heads up on this install method.

    I hear talk about documentation for non-pae computers. I'd be willing to help with this. Had to do it already for the i8xx fiasco back in Lucid
    Thanks, I really do need all the help I can get ............ seriously

    It seems like every time I turn around either me or my hardware have some health problem

    Hardware problems have just been biting me in the rear end lately, not expensive failures, just annoying

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